id On RAGE "Cluster!@#$" and Lead Platforms

id On RAGE "Cluster!@#$" and Lead Platforms
[Oct 07, 2011, 9:33 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments

Kotaku asks the musical question "Why Was The PC Launch of Rage Such A "Cluster!@#$"?," getting answers from id on the topic, who express frustration with problems that were largely caused by driver issues. Along the way they also address how the game being designed for consoles holds back the PC edition. "You can choose to design a game around the specs of a high-end PC and make console versions that fail to hit the design point, or design around the specs of the consoles and have a high-end PC provide incremental quality improvements," John Carmack tells them. "We chose the latter." He also bluntly addresses why this makes sense for id (emphasis Kotaku's):

"We do not see the PC as the leading platform for games," Carmack added. "That statement will enrage some people, but it is hard to characterize it otherwise; both console versions will have larger audiences than the PC version. A high end PC is nearly 10 times as powerful as a console, and we could unquestionably provide a better experience if we chose that as our design point and we were able to expend the same amount of resources on it. Nowadays most of the quality of a game comes from the development effort put into it, not the technology it runs on. A game built with a tenth the resources on a platform 10 times as powerful would be an inferior product in almost all cases."

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Re: id On RAGE
Oct 8, 2011, 21:48

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Re: id On RAGE Oct 8, 2011, 21:48

Oct 8, 2011, 21:48

theyarecomingforyou

Creston wrote on Oct 8, 2011, 21:11:
When VSync is turned ON you should not see screen tearing. However, any time your frame rate drops below 60 frames per second you will get a sudden more severe drop to 30 frames per second. This is how VSync inherently works.

Errr, wot? If this is how Vsync inherently works, then why do I never have that problem in every other game except Just Cause 2? For that matter, why do I not have this problem in RAGE itself when I force Vsync through the CCC?

It is actually how it works. That's why many gamers are opposed to it and are willing to put up with a bit of screen tearing. The advantage of V-Sync is that it stops graphics cards over working themselves. If I disable V-Sync in some games, especially games like Crysis 2, then my graphics card heats up quite dramatically.

Fortunately they also include Smart V-Sync, which is the first time I've heard of it being implemented. That includes all the positives but none of the negatives. Can't wait for this to become industry standard.

As for the patch, it seems to have improved the few remaining quirks I had. Previously some of the characters were glitching in Wellspring but now appear to be fine. Everything maxed out, including 8xAA, and it runs beautifully smooth. Now they need to release the 150GB of textures that they have for the game, as the quality of textures on objects / floors is simply shocking. There's no point using MegaTexture if it results in so many textures looking WORSE than a standard tiling / decal game.

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