id On RAGE "Cluster!@#$" and Lead Platforms [Oct 07, 2011, 9:33 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Kotaku asks the musical question "Why Was The PC Launch of Rage Such A "Cluster!@#$"?," getting answers from id on the topic, who express frustration with problems that were largely caused by driver issues. Along the way they also address how the game being designed for consoles holds back the PC edition. "You can choose to design a game around the specs of a high-end PC and make console versions that fail to hit the design point, or design around the specs of the consoles and have a high-end PC provide incremental quality improvements," John Carmack tells them. "We chose the latter." He also bluntly addresses why this makes sense for id (emphasis Kotaku's):
"We do not see the PC as the leading platform for games," Carmack added. "That statement will enrage some people, but it is hard to characterize it otherwise; both console versions will have larger audiences than the PC version. A high end PC is nearly 10 times as powerful as a console, and we could unquestionably provide a better experience if we chose that as our design point and we were able to expend the same amount of resources on it. Nowadays most of the quality of a game comes from the development effort put into it, not the technology it runs on. A game built with a tenth the resources on a platform 10 times as powerful would be an inferior product in almost all cases."
I love how in this thread speaking of PC gaming only developers which is now on 7 pages and not 1 mention of Blizzard.
You guys never cease to amaze... of course I will get described as 'blizz shill/fanboy' but I'm ready for it.
Not only are they proof that the PC market is huge, they continue to make pc only games. yet only get shit from you guys. see something wrong here? What is it you want?
I see from you guys the constant "wheres sc2 now? LOL" classic lines when the game is actually being watched by millions all the time. Do you guys even see the pro sc2 scene that is currently going on? I would assume as knowledge 'pc gamers' you should.
The threads on sites like teamliquid go to 100 pages long in no time.
oh right... they are all blizz fanb0ys or "mcdonalds is popular but is it good? LOL"
and I'm not "bending over and taking it from them"; I'm enjoying their games. playing and watching.
so you guys bitch about not developing for PC, then bitch about when the developers do... non stop bitching all around.
Sure you say nothing will change if people don't bitch, but the constant hack bullshit coming from these boards gets to the hilarious level fast.
edit: apologize for the thread hijack from Carmack... but like was posted earlier, it's pretty clearly disappointing that he would switch from a market that can clearly make money when the game is quality. Those that stated the self fulfilling prophecy are right, make a shit game and you won't sell shit on the PC.
You guys never cease to amaze... of course I will get described as 'blizz shill/fanboy' but I'm ready for it.
Not only are they proof that the PC market is huge, they continue to make pc only games. yet only get shit from you guys. see something wrong here? What is it you want?
I see from you guys the constant "wheres sc2 now? LOL" classic lines when the game is actually being watched by millions all the time. Do you guys even see the pro sc2 scene that is currently going on? I would assume as knowledge 'pc gamers' you should.
The threads on sites like teamliquid go to 100 pages long in no time.
oh right... they are all blizz fanb0ys or "mcdonalds is popular but is it good? LOL"
and I'm not "bending over and taking it from them"; I'm enjoying their games. playing and watching.
so you guys bitch about not developing for PC, then bitch about when the developers do... non stop bitching all around.
Sure you say nothing will change if people don't bitch, but the constant hack bullshit coming from these boards gets to the hilarious level fast.
edit: apologize for the thread hijack from Carmack... but like was posted earlier, it's pretty clearly disappointing that he would switch from a market that can clearly make money when the game is quality. Those that stated the self fulfilling prophecy are right, make a shit game and you won't sell shit on the PC.
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