Op Ed

Kotaku - Stop Playing Video Games! Get a Job! Get Married! Be a Man!
Sigh. I'm all for encouraging people so step up and get a job (Look ma, I'm blogging), but can we leave the cheap video game slams out of it? I get that it's an easy shortcut to illustrating the kind of social maladjustment that the article describes, but it's just so lazy. Furthermore, abstractly invoking video games does little to actually illustrate Bennett's broader point, which may very well be something worth talking about. All I get from this is "These numbers say that men play video games, so of course that is part of the problem here." Specific examples, please!

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Oct 7, 2011, 06:15
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Re: Op Ed Oct 7, 2011, 06:15
Oct 7, 2011, 06:15
 
Sepharo wrote on Oct 6, 2011, 20:47:
A significant amount of time wasting on my computer is spent reading Wikipedia. Am I supposed to be studying from a library book or something?

Yes, you are, seeing as how the information on some topics is more specialised, more accurate and more vast in a book.
Now we donce.
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 6, 2011, 20:47
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Re: Op Ed Oct 6, 2011, 20:47
Oct 6, 2011, 20:47
 
A significant amount of time wasting on my computer is spent reading Wikipedia. Am I supposed to be studying from a library book or something?
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Oct 6, 2011, 14:53
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Re: Op Ed Oct 6, 2011, 14:53
Oct 6, 2011, 14:53
 
space captain wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 16:39:
i wonder what the guy sitting next to me thinks about me... does he approve of my life and who i am?

I HAVE TO KNOW!!

Yes, I do : ) At least what I know of it...

Virtual 'next to me', not literal... : )

-Alamar
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 6, 2011, 12:26
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Re: Op Ed Oct 6, 2011, 12:26
Oct 6, 2011, 12:26
 
You'd have wasted your time on listening to Rock and Roll, or hanging out with your buddies in a diner, or fixing up a beat-down old car, or (further back), going to see the magic pictures show after the darkness fell and you ran out of petroleum for your little oil lamp.

So you concede then that video games are an utter waste of time?

I know for a fact when I don't have access to a computer I tend to spend my time more productively, as if I've unlocked extra hours out of the day, which in effect I have. Thomas Jefferson, as a young man, would spend 12 hours a day studying. I'm not sure I'd ever manage that even in the best of circumstances, but experience tells me I'd devote a lot more time to the development of my mind than I would otherwise if computers weren't widely available.
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 6, 2011, 07:22
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Re: Op Ed Oct 6, 2011, 07:22
Oct 6, 2011, 07:22
 
ugh. Been working since I was 16, been playing games since I was 8 or so....big whoop.

These numbers say that men play video games, so of course that is part of the problem here."

That is not correlation....
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 6, 2011, 00:31
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Re: Op Ed Oct 6, 2011, 00:31
Oct 6, 2011, 00:31
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 17:53:
Draugr wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 16:49:
Newer forms of media being treated as a scapegoat for societal woes? Well, isn't that new.


You have to admit though that video games are an utterly unproductive way to spend your time. Maybe I would have found some other way to waste my time, but I can't help but think of how many more books I would have read and languages I would have learned had I been born before video games were invented.

No you wouldn't have. You'd have wasted your time on listening to Rock and Roll, or hanging out with your buddies in a diner, or fixing up a beat-down old car, or (further back), going to see the magic pictures show after the darkness fell and you ran out of petroleum for your little oil lamp.

Mankind will find something to waste time on. It's not as if videogames suddenly turned the entire world lazy.

Creston
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 19:53
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 19:53
Oct 5, 2011, 19:53
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 17:53:
Draugr wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 16:49:
I can't help but think of how many more books I would have read and languages I would have learned had I been born before video games were invented.

Probably none, if you think about it. You would've found some other trivial pursuit, most likely. And books aren't necessarily the best way to pursue your time, either: as games become more complex simulations, there's no reason to think they'll be a 'lesser' form of media than movies or novels.

That said, everything in moderation. These days, I'm lucky to have a few hours per week to play games, and it's just a fun way to let life's problems go away for a bit. One can't study and learn all the time, after all: everything in moderation.
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Oct 5, 2011, 18:01
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 18:01
Oct 5, 2011, 18:01
 
But we did drop our controllers and our weed pipes, picked up our checks at the unemployment agency, and then occupied Wall street.
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 17:53
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 17:53
Oct 5, 2011, 17:53
 
Draugr wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 16:49:
Newer forms of media being treated as a scapegoat for societal woes? Well, isn't that new.


You have to admit though that video games are an utterly unproductive way to spend your time. Maybe I would have found some other way to waste my time, but I can't help but think of how many more books I would have read and languages I would have learned had I been born before video games were invented.
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 17:46
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 17:46
Oct 5, 2011, 17:46
 
Bleh. Just another stupid blowhard who doesn't know what year it is.

I'm 31, I work full time at a decent (ish) IT job, I'm single and I play video games. He can suckit.

I don't need a wife, I have a cat that bitches at me day and night, thank you.
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Oct 5, 2011, 16:52
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 16:52
Oct 5, 2011, 16:52
 
PHJF wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 15:54:
Not a day goes by where I find myself surrounded by a wife and children who adore me, and I them, and think to myself, "Man, did I ever screw up."

Wait until those kids are ready for college and the wife wants a newer, far more expensive house...

Nah, my eldest is at that age and my wife and I are planning our next move. We discuss our needs and wants, the budget and the timing. We work together to meet our goals and adjust as needed. That's part of tackling responsibility.
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 16:49
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 16:49
Oct 5, 2011, 16:49
 
Newer forms of media being treated as a scapegoat for societal woes? Well, isn't that new.

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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 16:39
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 16:39
Oct 5, 2011, 16:39
 
i wonder what the guy sitting next to me thinks about me... does he approve of my life and who i am?

I HAVE TO KNOW!!
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 15:54
PHJF
 
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 15:54
Oct 5, 2011, 15:54
 PHJF
 
Not a day goes by where I find myself surrounded by a wife and children who adore me, and I them, and think to myself, "Man, did I ever screw up."

Wait until those kids are ready for college and the wife wants a newer, far more expensive house...

I think you guys are missing the point. He just wants to let off some steam, Bennett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsfv_nThumI
Steam + PSN: PHJF
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 15:14
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 15:14
Oct 5, 2011, 15:14
 
Hmm, this is interesting. I've been serving in the Air Force for the past 7.5 years and gearing up for my second deployment this year, and I maxed out all the tuition assistance the Air Force will allow me for the previous fiscal year (in 2012 I will get my second and third degrees). Furthermore, I was married for about 6.5 years and despite being a loyal husband and amazing provider, my bi-polar, manic-depressive whore ex-wife decided to divorce me (now I'm in a wonderful, serious and stable relationship, however).

I am also a gamer. Always have been. I don't have the time to play like I did when I was a kid, and my tastes certainly have evolved over time. I also read a lot, including two of Mr. Bennett's books (non-political histories of America). Sadly, despite being presumably the model citizen he would have us all be (excepting the fact that I'm an atheist), he chooses to lump me (indeed, us all!) in with reclusive loners and non-productive idiots.

Fuck you, Mr. Bennett.
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Oct 5, 2011, 14:55
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Oct 5, 2011, 14:55
 
I pay for my "video games" with cash I earn working in a dull office, and since I spend 8 hours a day working in said boring environ I think I'm entitled to a few hours escapism a week.
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 14:53
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Oct 5, 2011, 14:53
 
Gee, some dude who has lost millions due to his gambling problem wants to tell us to stop playing games.




-Jn-
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 14:36
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 14:36
Oct 5, 2011, 14:36
 
Creston wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 14:23:
Fion wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 13:23:
Marriage is for fools who bought into a fantasy from childhood and don't mind dumping all their money down the toilet when it inevitably doesn't work out.

Huh. Funny how I have been very happily married for coming up on ten years, and most of my friends are happily married as well.

I guess we're doing something wrong. Please enlighten us.

Creston

Nah, he's right. Not a day goes by where I find myself surrounded by a wife and children who adore me, and I them, and think to myself, "Man, did I ever screw up."
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 14:23
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Oct 5, 2011, 14:23
 
Fion wrote on Oct 5, 2011, 13:23:
Marriage is for fools who bought into a fantasy from childhood and don't mind dumping all their money down the toilet when it inevitably doesn't work out.

Huh. Funny how I have been very happily married for coming up on ten years, and most of my friends are happily married as well.

I guess we're doing something wrong. Please enlighten us.

Creston
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Re: Op Ed
Oct 5, 2011, 13:58
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Re: Op Ed Oct 5, 2011, 13:58
Oct 5, 2011, 13:58
 
there is no lawn big enough for you and this man...

^m^

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