Fucking assbags, this is just like Shadowrun. We all heard a new Shadowrun was in the works and geeks everywhere got serious mahogany untill we saw what they did with it. Trading on the name alone only serves to destroy an otherwise valuable IP.

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was thinking of too. Taking the name and raping the game. The Shadowrun designers should be shot for what they did. I'm afraid this might follow that same path.

Riker wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 11:25:
I hope it's a good FPS. I do pine for isometric gaming sometimes, but I realize that it's just not in vogue anymore. Probably because of how unweildly it is to control an isometric game with a gamepad... not that they're any good at controlling FPSs either, mind you.

I don't know, we've seen a lot of throwback efforts that have been really solid over the past few years so I don't see any reason isometric tactical games couldn't be revisited either. Part of the industrys problem is always shooting for the moon in terms of budgets and development efforts, maybe if they tried more modest goals then we'd see some innovative titles and the industry could make a smaller profit but have less risk inherent. EA could have even used them to sell Origin to users and further their mobile efforts.

Nope, cue the bitching!

You're bitching more about imaginary people bitching than anyone here is actually doing.

Creston wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 11:32:

nin wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 09:54:

Even the new cover art reminds me of the latest DX.

Hey, they turn this into something similar to Deus Ex, and I'm all over it like hot butter.

Creston

I thought the same, but like I said yesterday, I can see why fans of the original wouldn't want that.

nin wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 09:54:

Even the new cover art reminds me of the latest DX.

Hey, they turn this into something similar to Deus Ex, and I'm all over it like hot butter.

Creston

Riker wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 11:25:
I hope it's a good FPS. I do pine for isometric gaming sometimes, but I realize that it's just not in vogue anymore. Probably because of how unweildly it is to control an isometric game with a gamepad... not that they're any good at controlling FPSs either, mind you.

There are still a few, with that number growing.
They just don't sell well so a team like Starbreeze will never be able to produce one and cover expenses, and no one would be able to afford the Syndicate name on the sales a isometric game would bring in. So indie teams need to innovate in gameplay and game design rather than use one that's been dormant for 15 years.

I don't see the loss there. It's certainly better than eastern european teams buying the name and running it into the ground like JA.

I'm not against a good dystopian FPS, hell we just played one. However Syndicate wasn't an FPS so how does this appeal to fans of the original? Meh, I have a feeling it's going to be some consolized POS anyway.

Fucking assbags, this is just like Shadowrun. We all heard a new Shadowrun was in the works and geeks everywhere got serious mahogany untill we saw what they did with it. Trading on the name alone only serves to destroy an otherwise valuable IP.

I hope it's a good FPS. I do pine for isometric gaming sometimes, but I realize that it's just not in vogue anymore. Probably because of how unweildly it is to control an isometric game with a gamepad... not that they're any good at controlling FPSs either, mind you.

Dmitri_M wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 11:05:

Beamer wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 11:02:

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:34:
The First Syndicate had a world map. That was my entire point.

So what?
It's like some of you will only be happy if you get pixel-for-pixel remakes.
This is moving so far away that we probably won't even get a map. We'll get a game similar in tone and concept. It will probably be fun, given that it's being handled by a pretty solid developer. It will probably be one of the better FPGs games of its launch year.

And people will still cry and moan that the cars no longer look like eggs.

Moron. Think. An isometric top down tactical game becomes a FPS. Can you not understand why this would throw people.

Yes, but it isn't like anyone here expected a new Syndicate to come out as an isometric top down tactical game, eh? It's been 15 years since the last one, and that one was just ok.

The most recent game for people here to lose their shit over switching perspective was Fallout 3, one of the better games of the past several years. Yet few seem to have learned the lesson of all that bitching and moaning and take a wait-and-see approach. Nope, cue the bitching!

I wonder if Castle Wolfenstein fans sent John Carmack hate mail when Wolfenstein 3D was announced. "It needs to be a third person stealth based platforming game, you're apologizing for the industry and ruining the entire concept!!!!"

So what?
It's like some of you will only be happy if you get pixel-for-pixel remakes.

Yeah, that's exactly what it's like Stop being a wanker, it's not exactly difficult to see how this could throw people a bit. The only thing that should condition them is their cynicism which you claim is too heavy around here.

"People" keep playing apologist for the industry around here too. I guess they'll cry and moan about anything people say that isn't positive.

Beamer wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 11:02:

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:34:
The First Syndicate had a world map. That was my entire point.

So what?
It's like some of you will only be happy if you get pixel-for-pixel remakes.
This is moving so far away that we probably won't even get a map. We'll get a game similar in tone and concept. It will probably be fun, given that it's being handled by a pretty solid developer. It will probably be one of the better FPGs games of its launch year.

And people will still cry and moan that the cars no longer look like eggs.

Moron. Think. An isometric top down tactical game becomes a FPS. Can you not understand why this would throw people.

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:34:
The First Syndicate had a world map. That was my entire point.

So what?
It's like some of you will only be happy if you get pixel-for-pixel remakes.
This is moving so far away that we probably won't even get a map. We'll get a game similar in tone and concept. It will probably be fun, given that it's being handled by a pretty solid developer. It will probably be one of the better FPGs games of its launch year.

And people will still cry and moan that the cars no longer look like eggs.

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:24:

Beamer wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:10:

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 09:50:
Note the specific mention of the pivotal "American market". WTF? Some more irrational dumbing down for the Average Joe America?

Is this a serious post?
The game takes place in America.

I swear I do not understand half of what some people here get their underwear wadded up over. I think some of you are variations of SmarterChild designed specifically to make me nuts, or of late make Jerykk nuts.

Did you play the original game Beamer?

Or better yet, do you live in the real world?

If the answer is yes to either one of these questions you would get my point.

Yes. And I played The American Revolt. I don't see what those things have to do with this thing, though. Same name, not same game.

Of course, if you want to bring out the "derr... did you play the original game" card, you should take offense to it being near-future. Syndicate was 22nd century, not 21st.

To be released exclusively on Origin, zero day DLC, 4 hours of gameplay, but DLC available each week!

The First Syndicate had a world map. That was my entire point.

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:24:

Beamer wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:10:

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 09:50:
Note the specific mention of the pivotal "American market". WTF? Some more irrational dumbing down for the Average Joe America?

Is this a serious post?
The game takes place in America.

I swear I do not understand half of what some people here get their underwear wadded up over. I think some of you are variations of SmarterChild designed specifically to make me nuts, or of late make Jerykk nuts.

Did you play the original game Beamer?

Or better yet, do you live in the real world?

If the answer is yes to either one of these questions you would get my point.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Beamer wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:10:

InBlack wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 09:50:
Note the specific mention of the pivotal "American market". WTF? Some more irrational dumbing down for the Average Joe America?

Is this a serious post?
The game takes place in America.

I swear I do not understand half of what some people here get their underwear wadded up over. I think some of you are variations of SmarterChild designed specifically to make me nuts, or of late make Jerykk nuts.

Did you play the original game Beamer?

Or better yet, do you live in the real world?

If the answer is yes to either one of these questions you would get my point.

JoeNapalm wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:13:
What are the chances of this hitting the sweet spot between Deus Ex and Red Storm era Rainbow Six?

If they did something like this, with mind control, it'd be awesome. You'd have to take very little Rainbow Six to make it work, but an initial planning screen with multiple points of entry would be enough.

While I didn't expect them to make another isometric game or something, this is Just Yet Another FPS Game. I hope at some point the console kids get tired of them so we can see some innovation in the gaming industry.

Halo wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 10:03:

nin wrote on Sep 12, 2011, 09:54:

Even the new cover art reminds me of the latest DX.

Being a series about future based corporations with augmented soldiers I'm not too surprised.

I think it's the little triangles that do it.

What are the chances of this hitting the sweet spot between Deus Ex and Red Storm era Rainbow Six?


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