No worries, Seph...my comments were more aimed at Krovven

^D^

^Drag0n^ wrote on Sep 9, 2011, 00:47:
No, I totally understand what film noir is as an art form, and I'm a huge fan of it...which was why I enjoyed the first two games immensely. What I'm saying is I'm not convinced it will fit that mold. I hope I'm wrong, but, like I said, I'm not liking the direction it seems to be headed in, and it's giving me doubts.

And of course I'd rather see Remedy do it. Just like I'd rather see id do Doom and Quake over 3rd parties.

^D^

Sorry I meant to note that in my post. I also am not claiming that the game is going to be noir either, just that the setting isn't out of place. Not in this thread but in others the location was mistakenly cited as not characteristic of noir.

No, I totally understand what film noir is as an art form, and I'm a huge fan of it...which was why I enjoyed the first two games immensely. What I'm saying is I'm not convinced it will fit that mold. I hope I'm wrong, but, like I said, I'm not liking the direction it seems to be headed in, and it's giving me doubts.

And of course I'd rather see Remedy do it. Just like I'd rather see id do Doom and Quake over 3rd parties.

^D^

Two south-of-the-border noirs off the top of my head:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_of_Evil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_past

But there's a lot more.

Eh, may as well post these now since I'm in compulsive research mode:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Danger_Lives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_the_Pink_Horse

Actually found those two off of a syllabus for a film history class specifically called, "Going South: American Noir in Mexico"

Here are some sentences from previous posts on the subject:
"A secondary tenet of Noir is south-of-the-border locations and plots. Some uneventful detective work slash plot introduction during the day, perhaps a trail, and then at night the clubs, a visit to the slums or beach in the dark and tie it all up at a villa. Throw some Hispanic stereotypes and femme fatale in there and you're set."

"Along with dark cityscapes, crime, femme fatales, private detectives, boxing matches, and horse races, there are adventures south of the border.

Of course the example I'm thinking of right off the bat is Touch of Evil directed by and starring Orson Welles as a fat corrupt has-been cop."

This comment was edited on Sep 8, 2011, 21:41.

^Drag0n^ wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 12:54:
The Film Noir feel was far cooler.

Don't think you know what "film noire" actually is then. I think it was Sepharo that covered this in a previous thread. From what I've seen and read, MP3 very much is.

I'm looking forward to it. It looks and sounds great. I don't get what all the negativity is about. It's Rockstar making and publishing the game. Do people really care that Remedy isn't doing this, when their last game was Alan Wake?

Jdrez wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 14:27:
*sigh*

I kind of wish they'd left Max alone. The originals are two of my all-time favorite PC games, but re-capturing that magic is unlikely.

I fully expect another dull cover-based-shooter that's probably going to mix CoD with Kane n' Lynch.

Blah.

Also, Max don't need no stinking multiplayer. That's for the kiddies.

Spot on!

*sigh*

I kind of wish they'd left Max alone. The originals are two of my all-time favorite PC games, but re-capturing that magic is unlikely.

I fully expect another dull cover-based-shooter that's probably going to mix CoD with Kane n' Lynch.

Blah.

Also, Max don't need no stinking multiplayer. That's for the kiddies.

Yeah, RDR is pretty awesome. I'm playing it on my xBox. I'm OK with it on the xbox, though, as there really doesn't seem to be much they could add to make it compelling enough to ba a permanent library addition (i.e. we all know that it'd be a port, with no PC exclusives).

Not really liking the direction of the new Max Payne. The Film Noir feel was far cooler. From what little we've seen/heard, it seems like a mix of Far Cry 1 and CODMW2 Rio missions with a little Charlie Sheen thrown in. Meh.

^D^

Prez wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 12:15:
Max was emo before emo was cool.

Did you hear about the hipster who burnt his mouth?
He ate some pizza before it was cool

Max was emo before emo was cool.

LOC wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 10:28:

Verno wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 10:26:
Rockstar rarely lets me down, I'll give it a chance.

I agree. Even though we didn't get RDR on PC, R* very rarely releases a dud. So I have high hopes for this. Plus, I always wanted multiplayer for Max Payne (The Specialists HL1 mod ftw!) so this is great news finally for me!

Hrm, multiplayer Max Payne I can live without, and I REALLY want Red Dead Redemption on PC... playing a borrowed copy on PS3, it's aggravating as hell, realizing how good this game would have been on a pc. It's mind boggling that Rockstar skipped PC for this one game.

But will every character in MP be constipated? It's not Max Payne without constipation.

I hope they at least kept the cool story going. Bullet time and 3rd person shooting isn't enough to carry this franchise anymore.

I loved MP and MP2, though 2 was WAY too short. I'm cautiously excited about MP3.

Creston

I am trying not to be excited about this game, but I just can't help it. I LOVE the Max Payne series. I'm afraid I might end up disappointed, but I still want the game badly.

Verno wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 10:26:
Rockstar rarely lets me down

Agreed. When I read new Max Payne I was like 'I dunno about this...' but seeing that it is being done by Rockstar gives me hope.

Verno wrote on Sep 8, 2011, 10:26:
Rockstar rarely lets me down, I'll give it a chance.

I agree. Even though we didn't get RDR on PC, R* very rarely releases a dud. So I have high hopes for this. Plus, I always wanted multiplayer for Max Payne (The Specialists HL1 mod ftw!) so this is great news finally for me!

Rockstar rarely lets me down, I'll give it a chance.

Every time I see this, I think this game is as much Max Payne as the new "X-COM" is X-COM.

We'll see.