Jensen wrote on Aug 14, 2011, 23:52:Exactly.
I don't use other game clients besides Steam, but I'll occasionally download directly from the developer.
Nadeo isn't trying to make ManiaPlanet a Steam competitor. It just doesn't easily fit with Steam as it is now. They want a tight integration of their Mania games and a community platform. Trackmania relies on its creative community more than any other game I've played.
Crustacean Soup wrote on Aug 15, 2011, 03:15:It has always been possible to configure XASECO's own panels (records, vote, donate), i.e. turn them off or move them to another spot. And with both main widgets plugins (Fufi's Widgets and Records Eyepiece) it has always been possible to disable most of the racing widgets via the F7 key or a toggle command.
And speaking of XASECO, I really hope that server-side widgets are going to be avoidable (or non-existent) in this one. I don't like looking through a tiny little hole in the middle of the screen.
eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 15, 2011, 03:50:
I fail to see what steam has to do with user-driven content, steam is a store for games, user driven content can be done via in-game stuff after purchase on steam.
eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 15, 2011, 03:30:
Had no intention of buying this anyway, but its funny they sayManiaPlanet portal may be redundant with Steam
And thats exactly what it is. Redundant.
Crustacean Soup wrote on Aug 15, 2011, 03:13:Yeah, there seems to be twice as many LOL servers as every other gametype combined. I think it's great that the game has that kind of versatility with essentially different sub-games made possible by creative use of the level editor. But at the same time it also makes me a bit sad to see so many LOL servers (and lately, to some degree, the bizarrely named "RPG" servers), because they kind'a cannibalize the influx of players for other game modes. After all, it's not like players new to the game are going to join the ghost town tech servers when the LOL servers are fully populated and therefore always at the top of the server list.. The introduction of freezone made this even worse (for stadium-players, at least).
Well, you play FS or tech tracks without knowing what you're doing, and you're pretty much always going to rank badly (and in a large server, that's a pretty high number). I guess it's probably kind of demoralizing. TM has a pretty nasty learning curve.
There's also people who just want the points. Nadeo capped lol servers at 60,000 because of that, IIRC.
I can see some short/lol servers being entertaining for awhile, what gets me is just how many of them there are.
Crustacean Soup wrote on Aug 15, 2011, 02:55:LOL tracks remind me of Angry Birds. Launch off at a somewhat random angle and hope for the best. I guess a lot of people like luck based games.
There's also a lot of servers with "LOL" and "very short" tracks, which is a phenomena that's completely beyond me.
pacbowl wrote on Aug 15, 2011, 02:41:
IMO they need to clear up the confusion between all the versions. They have Trackmania United, Trackmania Forever, Trackmania Nations, Trackmania Sunrise and Steams Trackmania Nations Forever, all of which are a mix of paid and free versions. It can be very confusing for someone new to the series to find out what exactly they are getting without researching it first. Here's hoping it's not that way with TM2. And I hope track designers create more than a bunch of full-speed stadium maps.
Damn what a bunch of closed- and simple-minded cynics here.
Really? You have a tiny developer like Nadeo, which despite being owned by Ubisoft, still has fewer than 20 people working for them. They've been tremendously successful for the last decade making an incredibly awesome arcade racer that provides more pure freedom for creative expression than most every single other game out there.
They want to expand that idea of pure creative freedom to a variety of games and genres - not just racing, but shooters and RPGs too - taking full advantage of what PC gaming is all about, creating an entire platform for multiple games, millions of user-created levels, with a single unified community all around it.
And you whiners cuss them out because it's not on Steam?
I fucking love Steam, and love what it's done for PC gaming as a whole, but for the love of god, it's not everything. It can't support everything, and in the case of Nadeo's vision for ManiaPlanet, it doesn't even support what they're trying to do.
It's not "just another fucking launcher". Nadeo actually has damn good reasons for doing things this way - they're creating the fucking definition of the creativity and freedom that PC gaming is about.