Late to the party again, I know, but I'm probably alone in thinking this CE is semi worth it. The artbook appears to be large format hardcover (like the Fallout Strategy books), and the quality and size of the statue and map appear to be well above par:

(via Amazon)

Most of the collectors editions look like hogwash, but this one doesn't appear to be one of them (by my standards, that is).

^D^

I've never been a big fan of the "don't like it, don't buy it" argument. It's not even really an argument. It's common sense. Obviously I'm not going to buy something I don't like. The argument should ideally revolve around why I don't like it and you do.

Agent.X7 wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 15:19:
You admit your ignorance of this type of product several times, but continue to assure us that you know its value. Interesting.

Isn't it? It's almost like I've referenced it against other items that cost £100 and judged a plastic dragon with no inherent value to the IP it draws from lacking. I fear I do similar things when I see shirts being sold for £30 more than others because they've got DIESEL written on them. Their only value is the IP they're associated with, so by this time next year it'll be worth nothing. In depth knowledge of PVC modeling is not required to make that judgement.

Ultimately I don't give a damn if people buy these separately or not, ripoff or not, as people enjoy relentlessly pointing out if I don't like them I don't buy them, but these things are starting to infest things I am interested in. From the Witcher 2, through TOR and now Skyrim, if you want the other items that come with a CE and normally place it around £60, you need to pay over double that for a plastic statue whose real world value is tied to the hype around a computer game.

Oblivious as the man with the worthless sword may be, if he's satisfied and happy with it then it was worth the money.

The problem is, we're gamers and we have publishers doing there damndest to set the trend of raising the price of games, wether we feel what they're offering is worth the price of admission is in the end up to us and we will vote with our dollar.

Jonny wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 13:05:

This thread is full of whine. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to classify anyone who does buy it as some type of mental defective just because you can't see the worth. That just makes you a sad, sad person.

The only whine in it is coming from the "don't like it, don't buy it" crowd, who seem to be personally offended when a blatant rip-off is pointed out. Mysteriously, people are perfectly capable of distinguishing between their personal tastes and an objective assesment of the value of an item.

As a hypothetical example, two people collect swords. One buys a hand-forged sword from a swordsmith for $2000, the other a factory stamped stainless steel "Limited Edition" replica for $1000. I don't collect swords, yet I can objectively determine that Person A probably got value for money whereas Person B paid drastically over the material value for the "Limited Edition" tag.

Whether he's happy with it or not is irrelevant, whether I collect or value them or not is irrelevant, it's still objectively a rip off and can be labelled as such without trite aphorisms being waved around.

You admit your ignorance of this type of product several times, but continue to assure us that you know its value. Interesting.

PHJF wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 13:00:

This thread is full of whine. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to classify anyone who does buy it as some type of mental defective just because you can't see the worth. That just makes you a sad, sad person.

I'm not going to buy it you fuckin idiot, or wasn't that clear by my saying this shit is overpriced?

Personal attacks, so mature.

Jonny wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 13:05:

This thread is full of whine. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to classify anyone who does buy it as some type of mental defective just because you can't see the worth. That just makes you a sad, sad person.

The only whine in it is coming from the "don't like it, don't buy it" crowd, who seem to be personally offended when a blatant rip-off is pointed out. Mysteriously, people are perfectly capable of distinguishing between their personal tastes and an objective assesment of the value of an item.

As a hypothetical example, two people collect swords. One buys a hand-forged sword from a swordsmith for $2000, the other a factory stamped stainless steel "Limited Edition" replica for $1000. I don't collect swords, yet I can objectively determine that Person A probably got value for money whereas Person B paid drastically over the material value for the "Limited Edition" tag.

Whether he's happy with it or not is irrelevant, whether I collect or value them or not is irrelevant, it's still objectively a rip off and can be labelled as such without trite aphorisms being waved around.

Its only a rip off when your not happy with it. Your personal opinion on whats a rip off and what isn't, is worth less than that Pvc statue.

This thread is full of whine. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to classify anyone who does buy it as some type of mental defective just because you can't see the worth. That just makes you a sad, sad person.

The only whine in it is coming from the "don't like it, don't buy it" crowd, who seem to be personally offended when a blatant rip-off is pointed out. Mysteriously, people are perfectly capable of distinguishing between their personal tastes and an objective assesment of the value of an item.

As a hypothetical example, two people collect swords. One buys a hand-forged sword from a swordsmith for $2000, the other a factory stamped stainless steel "Limited Edition" replica for $1000. I don't collect swords, yet I can objectively determine that Person A probably got value for money whereas Person B paid drastically over the material value for the "Limited Edition" tag.

Whether he's happy with it or not is irrelevant, whether I collect or value them or not is irrelevant, it's still objectively a rip off and can be labelled as such without trite aphorisms being waved around.

This thread is full of whine. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to classify anyone who does buy it as some type of mental defective just because you can't see the worth. That just makes you a sad, sad person.

I'm not going to buy it you fuckin idiot, or wasn't that clear by my saying this shit is overpriced?

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 20:40:
Anyone else remember when the 'artbooks, cloth maps, figurines, etc' came with a normal boxed game? Yeah...

The biggest thing I remember getting from a regular edition was a T-shirt that came with Shadow of the Beast.

PropheT wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 11:48:

Deathbishop wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 09:13:
You may not be into statues, but a lot of people are. Most other IP Factory statues go for about $250 but I wouldn't expect people here to know or care about such details.

The high quality statues people buy aren't PVC.

No, they are polystone and cost between $125 - $1000+ US. Under $125 PVC is mainly used because it is cheaper. It's all polymers. It just depends on how much you want to spend on it.

This thread is full of whine. If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to classify anyone who does buy it as some type of mental defective just because you can't see the worth. That just makes you a sad, sad person.

Ledge wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 11:18:

The Half Elf wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 20:59:
Besides the statue there is no reason to buy the game, and even then the statue isn't worth it.

so youve played it ? p

Sorry, meant there is no reason to buy THAT edition of the game.

Deathbishop wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 09:13:
You may not be into statues, but a lot of people are. Most other IP Factory statues go for about $250 but I wouldn't expect people here to know or care about such details.

The high quality statues people buy aren't PVC.

You may not be into statues, but a lot of people are. Most other IP Factory statues go for about $250 but I wouldn't expect people here to know or care about such details. Case in point:

There's a difference between the figurines video games come with and a hand-painted, third-party TF2 statue sold separately. I'm pretty sure we all remember half the BioShock figurines being broken in their packaging.

Illumin wrote on Aug 6, 2011, 00:29:
Don't want it don't buy it its worth what ever someone pays for it. People pay 200 bucks for a pair shoes, 5.00 for a cup of coffee now days whats 150?

Hell you have people paying $500+for some max leveled guy in Wow with this months best gear on that will be outdated in 2 months. So you know they are still going to bank on a 150.00 CE.

That explains why the TOR collector's edition sold, since it's at least something you can show off to other people and possibly sell later if you lose interest. But outside of an MMO, I don't know why you'd buy a collector's edition that's more than $10/maybe $20 extra.

Can't say I'm thrilled with this. I would only read the art book once and would leave the dragon statue in the box in a closet. Since the "making-of" DVD doubtless contains major spoilers I wouldn't want to watch it until after I had finished the main quest, and by then I most likely wouldn't care anymore. In fact I still haven't watched the DVD that came with the Oblivion CE even though I solved the Oblivion crisis like 4 years ago.

It's really a shame they don't do it like the Morrowind CE anymore; that was a quality package. Game disc, large foldout map, Ordinator figurine, and most importantly SOUNDTRACK CD. All for $59.99. I'd pay it again. But this? A big chunk of kitsch that I'd never use for $100 extra? Forget it.

Darth Guybrush wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 23:41:
When our dollar is stronger than the US?

not for much longer.

The Half Elf wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 20:59:
Besides the statue there is no reason to buy the game, and even then the statue isn't worth it.

so youve played it ? p

I'd be happy if they just made a game with it this time around. I really can't see it happening though.

Resin sculpts are expensive to make in low quantities. That is just the nature of of the beast.

All the "making of" DVDs I've seen are just crap. All they do is talk about stuff that you're going to see in the game anyway, or they repeat things that you can see in any online interview. The "making of" stuff is like a throw-back to a time before the internet existed.

At least the art book they're bundling this time is of a big enough size to actually see the art.

So, basically you're getting a $60 game and you're paying $90 for a statue. That's probably about right. The thing is, I don't want a statue and I don't want a price point of $150.

I'd rather have a $75 CE with smaller collectibles and more of them. Ultima did it right a long time ago.