I think you are unsure why you quit, but it wasn't from the lack of fear of what's over the mountain, but more-so that there is no more adventure. The game has been completely cheesed down to a click n queue pugfest of complete and utter boredom. It's amazing how many millions of scenarios can be run by the same kids who can't do nothing but attack the first red dot in front of them, leaving strategy and skill a moot point. Next up, just knowing as soon as you get all the gear, a new expansion will come leaving you to more of a worthless endless mega month grind. And the biggest mistake was obvious. Changing the world was Blizzards most stupidest move ever. NEVER change what people are used too, build on it.. What you use to think of a home away from home became a forgotten memory. No interest to re-develop and re-explore... No interest to spend the $15. Eye candy does NOT replace solid foundation / shelter

Jonny wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 12:21:
so I just reinstalled Vista onto my TB secondary drive.

Those are just dirty words, Jonny.

Creston

Just found out why they lost so much recently/suddenly...

http://www.thedailyblink.com/2011/08/but-my-liege-he-is-but-one-man/

-Alamar

I agree with Endo re:1 million plus in 10 years time (2021) still. (althought the sub maybe a lot less/free play type thing)

Also would like to say a big HI to all the new lurkers who have posted in this thread for the first time , welcome.

xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 08:50:

For all you WoW haters, no WoW is not going to die overnight, or in the next 10 years.

Won't die overnight - but it sure won't last the next 10 years.

I think the majority of people will jump over to the new MMO or other stuff by then. It may "still be around" but it won't be nearly as popular. I don't call "being around" lasting....

I'll bet you ten bucks it's still got 1mil+ subs in 10 years. That's still damn good by any standard.

Not that I give a shit. WoW hasn't been fun since TBC.

All hard drive manufacturers have pre-MTBF failure rates in the 2-4% range, Western Digital is actually one of the most reliably rated.

It was on a WD Raptor with my operating system, which self destructed in impressive fashion.

I had a WD attempt to eat a TB of data a year ago and haven't touched them since.

edit: If anyone is looking for file recovery software, File Scavenger is pretty damn good. I've used at both at work and home.

http://www.quetek.com/prod02.htm

This comment was edited on Aug 5, 2011, 14:59.

LFace wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 03:40:
Bit late to the comments but heres my take. I played WoW for a few years since vanilla (not very early vanilla mind, but maybe a couple of months before TBC) and back then it was hard to level. The quests were not streamlined like they are now.

Back then it took me a long time to level, mainly because I didnt know what I was doing as a noob, but also because there was no big yellow arrow pointing where to go, where to find such-and-such, where the next quest is and so forth. People had to Look for what they were after. Look for the next quest and so on.

Now, WoW is so easy to level and play because it holds your hand the whole time whilst questing. You get to top level in next to no time due to fully streamlined quests that you never have to go hunting for the next place to go. That for me is whats killed it.

I would estimate when I first started WoW and got past the "I have no idea what im doing" phase, then it would take me a few month to get to max level. Now, its about a week or 2 for a casual to level to max. Heck on my first character I stuck with (Warlock) it took about 8 months to get to level 60 - probably because I sucked, but also because I liked exploring and finding stuff for recipes without buying them off the AH. That doesnt exist anymore, its all about BUY ALL OF THE THINGS!!! and ACCEPT ALL THE QUESTS WITHOUT READING!!! and that isnt a game, that isnt fun and its why in my eyes WoW is dying.

Really sums up how I feel. It's too bad really, because I miss the adventure that I originally discovered in WoW, my first MMO. Played since closed beta and canceled a few months ago. It's lost it's sense of exploration, danger, "what's over that next mountain" feel. Gearing with badges killed a part of raiding for me. It was really great while it lasted though. Looking forward to SWTOR and whatever Blizzard has coming down the road.

Dev wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 11:26:
You can get 2 TB hdds nowadays for around $60, easy enough to backup if the d/l is standing in the way.

It was on a WD Raptor with my operating system, which self destructed in impressive fashion. Can't get anything at all off it now. There wasn't anything vital on it though, just the O/S and games so I just reinstalled Vista onto my TB secondary drive. Eve is getting re-downloaded right now, but I wasn't enjoying WoW anymore and it gave me the kick I needed to stop. I'll get SC2 reinstalled at some point and use RealID to talk to the folk I was staying in WoW for over the last few months.

Jonny wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 09:51:
300,001 subs lost. I just cancelled mine about 10 minutes ago. Had a hard drive crash and I just couldn't be arsed reinstalling 32gb of WoW to stand around chatting to a couple of folk. The Molten Front really killed it for me though, it's obvious that they've not got a single clue about non-raid content. Grinding the same dailies for a month to earn tokens to unlock more dailies to earn more tokens to unlock vendors to buy raid gear when I don't raid? Really, sod that, and I'd put money on any new content being either raids, recycled dungeons or more dailies with all imagination surgically removed.

You can get 2 TB hdds nowadays for around $60, easy enough to backup if the d/l is standing in the way.

Beelzebud wrote on Aug 4, 2011, 12:30:
There is no time to enjoy the content, because they barely give regular guilds a chance to do it before they start nerfing the difficulty and pushing a new raid out.

6 months is more than enough time to down the content on regular difficulty. If 6 months is an issue for you, then the nerfs might be necessary for you and your group in order to enjoy raiding.

300,001 subs lost. I just cancelled mine about 10 minutes ago. Had a hard drive crash and I just couldn't be arsed reinstalling 32gb of WoW to stand around chatting to a couple of folk. The Molten Front really killed it for me though, it's obvious that they've not got a single clue about non-raid content. Grinding the same dailies for a month to earn tokens to unlock more dailies to earn more tokens to unlock vendors to buy raid gear when I don't raid? Really, sod that, and I'd put money on any new content being either raids, recycled dungeons or more dailies with all imagination surgically removed.

Time for a Lobotomy Dude.

um, they are still making 168 million dollars a month on subs alone. (or something like that)

wich is more that other big mmo games generate in a year.

apparently that means that somehow its the end of the world for them. heh.

xXBatmanXx wrote on Aug 5, 2011, 08:50:

For all you WoW haters, no WoW is not going to die overnight, or in the next 10 years.

Won't die overnight - but it sure won't last the next 10 years.

EQ is still around so I am sure WoW will be. But yes that falls under your "being around" clause. I just feel the game needs massive changes to draw people like me who have quit back. I am not even sure I know what those are, but atm I feel zero desire to return and I haven't been playing since StarCraft 2 came out.

10 more years is a bit of a reach but it will easily make it to a 10 year total lifespan. Then again, don't under estimate resistance to change. UO and EQ are still going 10 years later.

For all you WoW haters, no WoW is not going to die overnight, or in the next 10 years.

Won't die overnight - but it sure won't last the next 10 years.

I think the majority of people will jump over to the new MMO or other stuff by then. It may "still be around" but it won't be nearly as popular. I don't call "being around" lasting....

I agree Endo, it is past its prime, but it is still top of the MMO's. It will no doubt continue to decline until such a time that people have moved on to Titan or whatever.

Since quitting WoW personally, I have moved on and tried other games and activities I didnt have time for whilst playing WoW. Ive just got Borderlands (yeah im well behind!), was addicted to minecraft for quite a few months, Terraria is also a top fave and just recently as well Ive got back into programming and switched to Android development as a hobby and possible small income generator on top of my 8-4 mon-fri job. Im enjoying myself now and spend more time with the wife than turning up to fail-raids with my ex guild.

I dont regret my time in WoW, as I did enjoy it up until a year ago when I quit for a short while before returning to Cataclysm. Again I got bored of that quickly and havent been on since.

Yawn. WoW continues it's long slow decline. No one saw this coming.

For all you WoW haters, no WoW is not going to die overnight, or in the next 10 years.

For all you WoW fanbois, WoW is past its prime. It will continue to slowly bleed subscribers. Get over it.

For myself, I'm glad I quit playing 7 months ago.

In my case WotLK was the best. I was having a blast Priest-healing PuG's for instances. I never went to even a single raid though.

But as said the game itself became a job. What do you end up doing with your flagship character? you log in, chat a bit, see whats up. Dailies, maybe PuG an instance. Then that was it for me, without ever raiding I just couldn't care after I finished my daily routine.

Ahh well, glad I'm done with WoW. 5-years down the drain.