Sepharo wrote on Aug 3, 2011, 00:24:
Not going to play in the alpha for BF3, I'll wait until a few days into release probably so the server browser might be more stable.
Teddy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 23:55:Sepharo wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 18:47:
The only gun I use in BC2 (and BC2:V) is the M1 Garand. It's neat because I can use it with any class but I'm mostly engineer.
So in a roundabout way I'm playing the same build I played in 1942.
Engie with M1, bazooka, and repair.
It has the same stats in BC2 and BC2:V except a little bit faster.
See now, that's the exact reason why I haven't used the garand. Used it plenty in BF1942. It'd just feel weird to me to use it in modern game, particularly one that has tons of new weapons.
OldScho0l wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 20:52:
In the Alpha, I played as a sniper until I unlocked the Bipod and I got most of my points per round by spamming Q as I looked around the BF with my 12x scope.
Sepharo wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 18:47:
The only gun I use in BC2 (and BC2:V) is the M1 Garand. It's neat because I can use it with any class but I'm mostly engineer.
So in a roundabout way I'm playing the same build I played in 1942.
Engie with M1, bazooka, and repair.
It has the same stats in BC2 and BC2:V except a little bit faster.
Teddy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 04:12:OldScho0l wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 02:10:
@Teddy
It has always been an option in BC2. It's considered a casual feature where as Hardcore servers have it disabled. 2D spotting is enabled via the map, but Hardcore doesn't have the mini map and you have to actually open your map to see the 2D spots. I only play on Hardcore mode in BC2 because I hate the 3D spotting and insane damage a player can take in casual mode. The Alpha was casual mode.
I had a total blast playing BF3! Now I'm wishing that prone could be added into BC2.
Only ever tried normal mode in BC2 once. As soon as I saw how many rounds it took from an LMG to kill someone, I logged off and went to hardcore, so I don't think I ever saw the 3d spotting in that game.
That said, I didn't find the damage model far off from Hardcore BC2 to the alpha for BF3. People died plenty fast in it, giving or recieving. The spotting was just silly when you could spam Q and have little arrows pointing out people you'd never have seen.
I get the intent of it, and sure it helps with teamwork, but it's far from balanced. It really needs to have a cooldown on the use of it, and have the range it will spot people limited so that they have to be closer to the crosshair for it to work. This "everything in the scope" stuff should be restricted to recon who have the spotting mod.
Verno wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 14:08:
Bitch at devs for balance issues, not players. People use LMGs a lot because they're effective in a wide variety of situations. That's a weapon balance problem, not a player base issue.
bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 12:10:Teddy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:33:bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:06:
LMG whores are the worst whores. Seriously, die in a newb fire
Who is this retard? Because I chose to play a medic to try and help my team that makes me a "newb"?
Perhaps you misunderstand the concept of Battlefield games.
You complained that it took too many hits from a weapon with a 100-200 shot clip with no cool down and a tactical scope to improve accuracy. I'd say that's being a newb. The biggest reason BF infantry has always sucked ass is because of LMG whoring
bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 12:10:
You complained that it took too many hits from a weapon with a 100-200 shot clip with no cool down and a tactical scope to improve accuracy. I'd say that's being a newb. The biggest reason BF infantry has always sucked ass is because of LMG whoring
Teddy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:33:bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:06:
LMG whores are the worst whores. Seriously, die in a newb fire
Who is this retard? Because I chose to play a medic to try and help my team that makes me a "newb"?
Perhaps you misunderstand the concept of Battlefield games.
InBlack wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 09:48:
I put a lot of hours into shooters in my life (probably more than any other game) ever since Doom2 so I resent that Mr. Batman.
Have you played CoD4:MW? Until you get some of the goodies that are only available after a good deal of playing (especially the scopes) YOU WILL get your ass handed right back to you regardless of skill.
bhcompy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 11:06:
LMG whores are the worst whores. Seriously, die in a newb fire
Teddy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 04:12:OldScho0l wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 02:10:
@Teddy
It has always been an option in BC2. It's considered a casual feature where as Hardcore servers have it disabled. 2D spotting is enabled via the map, but Hardcore doesn't have the mini map and you have to actually open your map to see the 2D spots. I only play on Hardcore mode in BC2 because I hate the 3D spotting and insane damage a player can take in casual mode. The Alpha was casual mode.
I had a total blast playing BF3! Now I'm wishing that prone could be added into BC2.
Only ever tried normal mode in BC2 once. As soon as I saw how many rounds it took from an LMG to kill someone, I logged off and went to hardcore, so I don't think I ever saw the 3d spotting in that game.
That said, I didn't find the damage model far off from Hardcore BC2 to the alpha for BF3. People died plenty fast in it, giving or recieving. The spotting was just silly when you could spam Q and have little arrows pointing out people you'd never have seen.
I get the intent of it, and sure it helps with teamwork, but it's far from balanced. It really needs to have a cooldown on the use of it, and have the range it will spot people limited so that they have to be closer to the crosshair for it to work. This "everything in the scope" stuff should be restricted to recon who have the spotting mod.
BFBC2 only took a few hours to unlock damn near all the weapons - and even then the majority of stuff isn't worth using. I am sure the same will be said with BF3.
DangerDog wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 03:47:InBlack wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 03:43:
So....this game sounds more and more like an MMO....Will we have to grind to unlock the AK-47?
Probably not the AK, but yes I'm sure there will be lots of grinding to be had to unlock weapons.
Teddy wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 04:15:DangerDog wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 03:47:InBlack wrote on Aug 2, 2011, 03:43:
So....this game sounds more and more like an MMO....Will we have to grind to unlock the AK-47?
Probably not the AK, but yes I'm sure there will be lots of grinding to be had to unlock weapons.
I suppose if you define playing the game normally as "grinding" then yes, there will be plenty of it. It's far from an MMO's sitting in the same spot killing the same mobs a thousand times over. Just play the game in whatever manner you enjoy most and things useful to you will unlock.