id on RAGE PC Controls

PC Gamer has word from id's Tim Willits on RAGE controls, stressing the game's PC support allows the player to carry more weapons than, say, Duke Nukem:
Rage doesn’t follow the trend for letting you only carry two weapons at once. Instead, you can carry all your weapons at all times, and they’re mapped to the traditional number keys. “We were kind of back and forth on whether we keep to four buttons that you map to your favourites,” explained Willits. “But on the PC you’ve got a key for every weapon. And we follow the Half-Life control paradigm, where you can press the button twice to select the weapon.”
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Good to see this getting settled. Let's move on to something else to bitch about.
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Sniff..@Tim Willits.. I love you man, whew.
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Weew...
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Weew... Jun 8, 2011, 11:56
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Thank you.
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Jun 8, 2011, 12:00
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This should be crossposted to the Dungeon Siege thread of an example of how to properly handle choice.
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Rage doesn’t follow the trend for letting you only carry two weapons at once.

Shot across the bow...

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Jun 8, 2011, 12:39
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Jun 8, 2011, 12:39
 
HALLELUJAH!
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Jun 8, 2011, 12:45
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I'll be happy as long as I can remap all my weapon keys. Can't think of a reason why they wouldn't allow that, but DS3 doesn't let you remap keys, so who knows.
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Jun 8, 2011, 13:11
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Jun 8, 2011, 13:11
 
Apparently gone are the days of games like Quake where you can rebind whateverthefuck you want with a simple text file. So things like this are actually news.

Oh wait its the same way with dedicated servers, let alone USER RUN dedicated servers, and mod tools, and free demos on all platforms before launch, and the ability to turn off mouse acceleration, and support for 16:10 monitors, and ...
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Jun 8, 2011, 13:40
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Jun 8, 2011, 13:40
 
Verno wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 12:00:
This should be crossposted to the Dungeon Siege thread of an example of how to properly handle choice.

id clearly doesn't know what they're doing. They should be creating one master control system and intentionally hampering all the rest of them to ensure that everyone has to play the game the way they want them to.

That's the way REAL developers like Obsidian handle things these days. THEY dictate how a player should enjoy their game, not the other way around.

*nods to himself*
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It will be another lost cause game if they don’t allow us to remap those keys. Just look at the rage over DS3 that going on now over the lack of remapping keys. That should be a prime example of what not to do to your customers.
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Jun 8, 2011, 13:57
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Frijoles wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 11:25:
Good to see this getting settled. Let's move on to something else to bitch about.

No dedicated servers for RAGE? I haven't read if that's true or not.
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Jun 8, 2011, 14:19
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So, press button twice to select weapon, then press the cycle ammo button up to 3 times to select ammo? Or would the half-life control scheme take care of ammo selection as well? I can't remember exactly how it worked.
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DangerDog wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 13:57:
Frijoles wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 11:25:
Good to see this getting settled. Let's move on to something else to bitch about.

No dedicated servers for RAGE? I haven't read if that's true or not.

8 player MP, so i doubt it will matter much
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These low player limits in MP is just sad. We had several times this many in the mid 1990's over a freaking 56K (or less) modem!

I really miss the days of QuakeWorld/Quake2 multiplayer. Sure dial up sucked but it still worked good enough and the matches were just crazy.
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entr0py wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 14:19:
So, press button twice to select weapon, then press the cycle ammo button up to 3 times to select ammo? Or would the half-life control scheme take care of ammo selection as well? I can't remember exactly how it worked.
HL stacked some weapons so you hit say 3 then a menu of weapons showed up and you hit 3 till you got to the one you wanted then pressed the fire button to select.

Or you do what I (and I think everyone else did) turned fast user switching on and just used the mouse wheel.
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Jun 8, 2011, 15:29
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SirKnight wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 15:05:
These low player limits in MP is just sad. We had several times this many in the mid 1990's over a freaking 56K (or less) modem!

I really miss the days of QuakeWorld/Quake2 multiplayer. Sure dial up sucked but it still worked good enough and the matches were just crazy.

I can't agree unfortunately. As someone who was a huge fan of playing Doom, Doom 2 and Duke3D over BBS's back in the early 90's. I prefered the small intimate 4-8 player matches. 64 Players is fine for something as large scale as Battlefield 3, or 32 for something medium scale like Bad Company 2. But I've personally always felt 16 Player for 8 v 8 Team games was ideal, and anything more than 8 for straight deathmatch is just too much chaos and no longer about skill.
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Jun 8, 2011, 15:41
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DangerDog wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 13:57:
Frijoles wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 11:25:
Good to see this getting settled. Let's move on to something else to bitch about.

No dedicated servers for RAGE? I haven't read if that's true or not.

There is no competitive multi, it is co-op only.
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Warskull wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 15:41:
DangerDog wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 13:57:
Frijoles wrote on Jun 8, 2011, 11:25:
Good to see this getting settled. Let's move on to something else to bitch about.

No dedicated servers for RAGE? I haven't read if that's true or not.

There is no competitive multi, it is co-op only.

Absolutely wrong. FFS. Have you even read an article about Rage?
The COMPETITIVE MULTI component of the game is the "Rage Combat Rally" which is essentially 8 people in buggies blowing the shit out of each other. No, it is not FPS Deathmatch, but it is still competitive multi.
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Jun 8, 2011, 17:14
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Combat Rally doesn't count.
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Yes. It does. While it may not be your cup of tea. There are those of us out there who enjoy the auto combat genre. I have forever been a big fan of Carmageddon, Twisted Metal and Interstate '76 is at the top of my list when it comes to favorite games ever. Theres 50 other competitive FPS games out there. If they want to do auto combat multi, I totally dig it.
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