Nucas wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 02:40:
big reveal of e3 2011: i can dress like mat cauthon in space.

Good to see I'm not the only one that thought that.

Doombringer wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 19:09:
It's a little stifling, I agree, if that's the only option they're giving. You don't know how 'shitty' it will be, however. Steam launched years ago and was a steam-ing pile of crap, but it's shaped up since then and is a great content delivery service.

You are forgetting 2 things
a) this is EA we are talking about
b) this isn't the first content delivery system EA has done. They've done the whole EA download manager thing that delivers digital content purchased from the EA store. Many of us have had experience with at least one item purchased from EA store when they run a sale. And its often been a BAD past experience with EA's content delivery system. I think the only thing thats been improved is that now they let you re-download stuff. Early on they charged you a fee to re-download anything after 6 months, or you could pay an extra "download insurance fee". I'm pretty sure they've done away with that, correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyway, its not decent company (such as valve at the time) launching a new content delivery. Its EA launching yet another content delivery, and they have a history both as a non-decent company and with a non-decent content delivery system.

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 14:25:

NKD wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 11:24:
Cool story, but he isn't out of the loop. Reid doesn't post shit without running it through channels to make sure isn't talking out of his ass, unlike you.

Keep telling yourself that kiddo.

So what exactly are you going to do when the game is released and it's available in a box? Will you seppuku, you weeaboo fucktard? I hope so.

NKD wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 11:24:
Cool story, but he isn't out of the loop. Reid doesn't post shit without running it through channels to make sure isn't talking out of his ass, unlike you.

Keep telling yourself that kiddo.

Creston wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 13:34:

Doombringer wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 19:09:
I'm shocked, shocked, that gamers of all people, somewhat tech-savvy folks in general, aren't going at this with at LEAST an open mind.

Were you around when EA's authentication server went down about five or six weeks back, and people couldn't play Dragon Age OR Mass Effect for five straight days? Single player games? Because their DLC wouldn't authenticate? DLC that was, in many cases, 18 MONTHS old?

This is the company that you want people to have an "open mind" about...

Creston

To be fair, their MMOs have had pretty reliable connectivity. At least as reliable as WOW anyway. There's a big difference when your game has dedicated infrastructure vs. being forced onto the DRM servers for the unwashed masses.

Doombringer wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 19:09:
I'm shocked, shocked, that gamers of all people, somewhat tech-savvy folks in general, aren't going at this with at LEAST an open mind.

Were you around when EA's authentication server went down about five or six weeks back, and people couldn't play Dragon Age OR Mass Effect for five straight days? Single player games? Because their DLC wouldn't authenticate? DLC that was, in many cases, 18 MONTHS old?

This is the company that you want people to have an "open mind" about...

Creston

Fausticle wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 17:09:
I can't see BioWare being happy about this.

"Hey kid, your leomonade is the best! That's why we've decided to pull you off the streets and lock you in a basement. Don't worry, I'm sure we'll do a great job at telling all your customers your in there!. You might want to go pee first"

"Being bought by EA will make no difference in the way we make games, or sell games."

- (horribly naive) Ray Myzuka, circa 2007.

Creston

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 09:40:

NKD wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 04:54:
I'll wait for you to read it.

Rule 1 in corporate shit. Take the parent company at face value. Rule 2. See rule 1.

I'll wait for you to read. Regardless of what the TOR community manager says, he(rule 3 - you/he) can have his head cut off and his feet taken out from under him by his overlords and be left out of the loop.

Cool story, but he isn't out of the loop. Reid doesn't post shit without running it through channels to make sure isn't talking out of his ass, unlike you.

NKD wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 04:54:
I'll wait for you to read it.

Rule 1 in corporate shit. Take the parent company at face value. Rule 2. See rule 1.

I'll wait for you to read. Regardless of what the TOR community manager says, he(rule 3 - you/he) can have his head cut off and his feet taken out from under him by his overlords and be left out of the loop.

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jun 7, 2011, 02:37:

StingingVelvet wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 23:33:
Wrong, retail boxed copy and deluxe version both confirmed on the TOR website. They are doing exactly the same thing as Blizzard and Cataclysm certainly sold just fine.

Really? I guess you missed the first sentence in this article. I'll wait for you to read it.

Regardless, it is incorrect. Much like you can only get WoW online from Blizzard, you can only get TOR online from EA. But you can get a boxed version from anywhere that stocks it.

Source

Stephen Reid, TOR Community Manager wrote:
First off: Origin is a fantastic new digital initiative from EA, and we're pleased to confirm that Star Wars: The Old Republic will be available exclusively for digital download from Origin.

However, even though you'll only be able to buy and download The Old Republic digitally via Origin, you will still be able to buy a retail, boxed copy of the game from your favorite retailer (and that includes online retailers who’ll ship the box to you). BioWare and EA know the value many gamers place on a cool boxed product... and we’re producing a cool boxed product. (Or maybe I should say 'boxed products'. )

I'll wait for you to read it.

double post

big reveal of e3 2011: i can dress like mat cauthon in space.

StingingVelvet wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 23:33:
Wrong, retail boxed copy and deluxe version both confirmed on the TOR website. They are doing exactly the same thing as Blizzard and Cataclysm certainly sold just fine.

Really? I guess you missed the first sentence in this article. I'll wait for you to read it.

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 22:00:

entr0py wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 21:08:
The only thing I care about is if a boxed copy will still require Origin; like if they'll make it the patcher. And it seems that hasn't been directly answered yet.

There is no 'boxed' copy according to everything. Digital only, no retail. Enjoy!

Wrong, retail boxed copy and deluxe version both confirmed on the TOR website. They are doing exactly the same thing as Blizzard and Cataclysm certainly sold just fine.

entr0py wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 21:08:
The only thing I care about is if a boxed copy will still require Origin; like if they'll make it the patcher. And it seems that hasn't been directly answered yet.

There is no 'boxed' copy according to everything. Digital only, no retail. Enjoy!

The only thing I care about is if a boxed copy will still require Origin; like if they'll make it the patcher. And it seems that hasn't been directly answered yet.

Of course, both Steam and GFWL try to integrate their software to boxed games as often as they can. And it's not as if you can buy Valve games on D2D or GOG. In principle, they're not doing anything worse than what we're used to. But I didn't like having Steam or GFWL shoved down my throat either.

Doombringer wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 19:09:
It's a little stifling, I agree, if that's the only option they're giving. You don't know how 'shitty' it will be, however. Steam launched years ago and was a steam-ing pile of crap, but it's shaped up since then and is a great content delivery service.

Maybe EA is greedy, or maybe this is simply their way of standardizing their content delivery, multiplayer and account management backends, anti-piracy, merchandise sales, etc, etc, into a single platform. I'm shocked, shocked, that gamers of all people, somewhat tech-savvy folks in general, aren't going at this with at LEAST an open mind. So many folks here will laud Steam and decry Origin, but forget exactly how Valve's service launched way back in the day. Or they'll be the types who are A-OK with Apple's iron grip on their App Store, or will slobber all over Notch's knob despite Minecraft's single-point-sales scheme, but will dump on Origin... geez people.

EA has a pretty good reputation for 'shitting' things up. And the better something was, the shitter it becomes unless they make it themselves. Then it's Mt. Shitmore, which erupts spewing crap everywhere.

EA is late to the game, and unless your distribution system is going to bring something unique to the game people will simply refuse it. GOG's claim? DRM free(So stupid a monkey can do it). Steams claim? Buy it, play it on your account anywhere(etc)(but we can ban you, and screw you out of all your shit!). Why should people be willing to even touch a new system by a company that they already know makes shit?

And I'll bet that most people here don't have apple related crap. Rather they use something android based, or have hardhacked or softhacked their phone, saying screw-you to both.

And minecraft? I never could see a point to that, let alone the hype.

Fion wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 18:54:

Doombringer wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 18:51:
I haven't bought a game from a brick-and-mortar store in a dog's age. It's either Amazon or Steam all the way.

We aren't saying this is a bad idea because we cant buy the game in a retail store. I haven't purchased a game from a store in ages either. It's that the game will ONLY be available via EA's shitty download service.

It's a little stifling, I agree, if that's the only option they're giving. You don't know how 'shitty' it will be, however. Steam launched years ago and was a steam-ing pile of crap, but it's shaped up since then and is a great content delivery service.

Maybe EA is greedy, or maybe this is simply their way of standardizing their content delivery, multiplayer and account management backends, anti-piracy, merchandise sales, etc, etc, into a single platform. I'm shocked, shocked, that gamers of all people, somewhat tech-savvy folks in general, aren't going at this with at LEAST an open mind. So many folks here will laud Steam and decry Origin, but forget exactly how Valve's service launched way back in the day. Or they'll be the types who are A-OK with Apple's iron grip on their App Store, or will slobber all over Notch's knob despite Minecraft's single-point-sales scheme, but will dump on Origin... geez people.

You all can see what’s coming next. EA will be making it so that their own online store will be the only place you can buy EA games. A Pirating we will go, YARR!!!

They don't care about pirates, they care about those paying customers. Pirate all you want, the paying customers will be the ones who feel the pain...because EA cares so so much.

Doombringer wrote on Jun 6, 2011, 18:51:
I haven't bought a game from a brick-and-mortar store in a dog's age. It's either Amazon or Steam all the way.

We aren't saying this is a bad idea because we cant buy the game in a retail store. I haven't purchased a game from a store in ages either. It's that the game will ONLY be available via EA's shitty download service.