So when we were pushing on the story, we thought, "People really love co-op; we love co-op." We don't want them to play the entire campaign with a buddy because you're just playing the same thing again with just another guy. And some people like that; some people are going to ask for that, and when this comes out they're going to say why didn't you make campaign mode completely playable with a co-op buddy? The reason why we did that is because there are nice story pockets for the co-op online experience; we call it Legends of the Wasteland.
This almost came about opportunistically because we knew we wanted to do co-op. So while we're putting this thing together and iterating through it we thought, "We should use these story elements because it's really interesting. It's a tall tale." You're being thrust into this little nugget of the story, and there are set parameters. We know what they did, but it was a legend. So now you're playing that role. You're not playing the story of the single-player campaign but it's something that complimented your success through the single-player campaign. So you're seeing what the other side was like. It's almost like when Valve came out with Blue Shift and you were able to play the police force.
descender wrote on May 3, 2011, 16:47:
If you would stop setting the UT3 bots so easy you would get better and wouldn't be embarrassed to play online.
Competitive games, on the other hand, are typically played on a daily basis for years.
You're missing the point. I play Borderlands because of the Coop. The loot and leveling are just the context. Coop makes any game more fun in my book.
Jerykk wrote on May 2, 2011, 15:17:
When you say you find people, do you mean personal friends? Or random strangers? If L4D didn't have the competitive Versus mode, I'm pretty sure the playerbase would be practically non-existent by this point.
As for Borderlands, would you still be playing it if it didn't have loot and leveling? If not, then co-op isn't really the reason why you're still playing it now.
Steele Johnson wrote on May 2, 2011, 10:30:
[...] Everyone loves co-op!
I have no trouble finding people to play coop with in L4D, and that's over 2 years old. I still play Borderlands coop with different people all the time, and that game is way older than a month.
Jerykk wrote on May 2, 2011, 12:13:I have no trouble finding people to play coop with in L4D, and that's over 2 years old. I still play Borderlands coop with different people all the time, and that game is way older than a month.
Co-op doesn't exactly have much substance. Nobody is going to play co-op for more than a month because it simply doesn't have the depth needed to do that. Conversely, people still play Q3 over a decade after its release.
Sepharo wrote on May 1, 2011, 19:12:
Being bad at twitch shooters has nothing to do with age (at least not in your age ranges).
How can you all be so willing to self diagnose yourself with atrophied mental capacities?
"Well, I wish I could play this fast game but my poor mind is too slow."
Changes in preference are a different matter.
InBlack wrote on May 2, 2011, 04:39:
Co-Op is for people who have no SKILLZ. Actually it makes perfect business sense to concentrate on Co-op, since most people have very little or no SKILLZ or lack the patience needed to actually get some.