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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 29, 2011, 08:05
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 28, 2011, 11:21
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 28, 2011, 11:21
Apr 28, 2011, 11:21
 
Multinational corporations care about their customers only in that they will do whatever it takes to keep getting that revenue stream. That they, and their executives, are beholden to the market means that they will put any event in the best positive light, even if it's the worst possible situation. In order to maximize their profits they will cut corners everywhere. It may not help employees, and some customers might complain, but boy that quarterly report sure looks better!

How do I know this? I've worked for one through the last recession.

It is no wonder then that we have serious fuckups like this and elsewhere. It will also be a miracle if the people affected get any kind of fair compensation.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 28, 2011, 08:48
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 23:16
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 23:16
Apr 27, 2011, 23:16
 
perfectly cromulent

This is like the eight time I've seen you use "cromulent."





I still approve.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 22:24
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 22:24
Apr 27, 2011, 22:24
 
Some interesting discussions between hackers that went on awhile ago detailing some of the problems with Sony's network. This is all long before the hack ever took place, they were already talking about how Sony wasn't storing information securely and the guy detailed how to get PSN games for free by simply modifying a url string. It appears Sony was collecting information which is uploaded during the PS3 boot up process too. TV Model, resolution, devices attached and more. It will be very interesting to see what if lawsuits can shed some light on these things.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 21:44
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 21:44
Apr 27, 2011, 21:44
 
necrosis wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 11:35:
Cutter wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 11:33:
Yeah, but it's been a great week for the rest of laughing our asses off at the Sony fanboys!
So just because you buy a Sony product your lumped in with the fanboys? Ass.

Awww, did my widdle comment hurt the Sony fanboy? Tell you what, pooter, I'll play the world' tiniest virtual violin just for you.

Ahahahahaha!
"Van Gogh painted alone and in despair and in madness and sold one picture in his entire life. Millions struggled alone, unrecognized, and struggled as heroically as any famous hero. Was it worthless? I knew it wasn't."
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 21:05
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 21:05
Apr 27, 2011, 21:05
 

Aww, don't like someone disagreeing with you, so you just tell them to get lost? How cute. I've evidently got far more to offer by not spreading bullshit rumors on forums, and challenging those that do.

Are you socially inept or something? You said you wanted to wait for the facts so why are you bugging everyone else? Go wait for the facts then. I'm sure if I go through your posts you have never offered an opinion about anything except scientifically provable factual events Rolleyes
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 20:56
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 20:56
Apr 27, 2011, 20:56
 
You're really going to try to apply the concept of a "scientific theory" to his perfectly cromulent use of the word "theory"?

The reverse of this is used to counter the typical "Evolution is just a theory!" but the way you're playing with semantics is pretty idiotic.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 20:50
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 20:50
Apr 27, 2011, 20:50
 
Dades wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 20:10:
Theories are often not based in fact at all.

Boston wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 19:41:
That's pretty wild. A "theory" doesn't always have to mean a scientific theory supported evidence, you know.

Is this seriously what they teach in schools these days? Theories, are true statements, based on fact, to reach a conclusion.

Dades wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 20:10:
If you have nothing to offer then shut up already and let other people chat about it. We'll let you know when all of the facts are in. Don't call us, we'll call you.

Aww, don't like someone disagreeing with you, so you just tell them to get lost? How cute. I've evidently got far more to offer by not spreading bullshit rumors on forums, and challenging those that do.

Boston wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 14:18:
not sandboxing dev network, misimplementation of ECC algorithm, sending personal info unencrypted (even if it's secure channel), storing account information in plaintext form (supposedly using encryption scheme that's already cracked), etc...

This was stated as fact, which it is not. This is rumor (not a theory) from one person on one forum that gets repeated by other people without any first hand knowledge.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 20:10
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 20:10
Apr 27, 2011, 20:10
 
Krovven wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 18:37:
Before you say anymore...learn the difference between a "theory" and "rumor".

The short version for you...
One is based on fact, the other is not.

Theories are often not based in fact at all. If you have nothing to offer then shut up already and let other people chat about it. We'll let you know when all of the facts are in. Don't call us, we'll call you.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 19:41
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 19:41
Apr 27, 2011, 19:41
 
That's pretty wild. A "theory" doesn't always have to mean a scientific theory supported evidence, you know. You remind me of a co-worker who always treat everyday conjunctions as boolean algebra.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 18:37
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 18:37
Apr 27, 2011, 18:37
 
No, you are calling anyone with a theory a half-wit

Before you say anymore...learn the difference between a "theory" and "rumor".

The short version for you...
One is based on fact, the other is not.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 18:04
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 18:04
Apr 27, 2011, 18:04
 
I paid $64 after tax and got a $10 gift card back. What deal are you referring to?

Amazon of course! $54.99 plus a $20 credit to spend on amazon! Plus you get an extra copy of the game to trade out once you've registered it on the PC!!! CHA CHING!
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 18:00
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Apr 27, 2011, 18:00
 
Sony, of course, will be hit with the cost of increasing security, which they should have incurred anyway, the cost of downtime, the cost of an "I'm sorry" package to its customers, and the cost of settling one of these class action lawsuits for next to nothing since there's likely little merit to them as thus far similar class action suits have gone nowhere. Class action suits pop up regularly. More often than not they go nowhere.

Depending on what PSN is when it comes back could have a HUGE affect on their projected profits going forward. If consumers do not have confidence that PSN deliver a good gaming experience it could push a lot of consumers over to the xbox which would obviously be bad for Sony Stock. It's too early to tell just how much work Sony needs to do behind the scenes to fix this. Maybe it will simply come back as it was before but I feel like that is too optimistic.

I think Sony invested A TON into getting Valve on board with Portal 2 and this is literally destroying all that work. Who knows how much Sony had to give up to make that happen.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 17:59
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 17:59
Apr 27, 2011, 17:59
 
Beamer wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 17:11:
Forbes chimes in with a worst-case scenario: It will cost Sony $24B.

Despite this being a worst-case scenario, this clearly shows that those saying Sony will leave unscathed out of this will probably find themselves reassessing their opinions.

Incorrect. That's the estimated cost, not cost to Sony.
Most of that cost is eaten by consumers, vendors, financial companies, etc.

Sony, of course, will be hit with the cost of increasing security, which they should have incurred anyway, the cost of downtime, the cost of an "I'm sorry" package to its customers, and the cost of settling one of these class action lawsuits for next to nothing since there's likely little merit to them as thus far similar class action suits have gone nowhere. Class action suits pop up regularly. More often than not they go nowhere.




Anyone else amused that the firm ASeven's article references is one letter away from being The Pokemon Institute?

Forbes being one of the most reputable financial agencies out there would not be amused at being a Pokemon Institute or associated with one. I am though. Ponemon... hehehe

As for those $24B, if CC info gets in the wild and people start seeing money being drawn from their accounts, you can be assured a class action suit on the merits that Sony didn't protect financial private data well enough will probably succeed. As for CA going nowhere, most don't go anywhere true, but when they go somewhere they really have a nasty habit of hitting hard the ones targeted. So a worst-case scenario will still mean heavy losses to Sony.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 17:55
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Apr 27, 2011, 17:55
 PHJF
 

But hey! You got that cheapie deal! That worked out great!

I paid $64 after tax and got a $10 gift card back. What deal are you referring to?
Steam + PSN: PHJF
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 17:11
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 17:11
Apr 27, 2011, 17:11
 
Forbes chimes in with a worst-case scenario: It will cost Sony $24B.

Despite this being a worst-case scenario, this clearly shows that those saying Sony will leave unscathed out of this will probably find themselves reassessing their opinions.

Incorrect. That's the estimated cost, not cost to Sony.
Most of that cost is eaten by consumers, vendors, financial companies, etc.

Sony, of course, will be hit with the cost of increasing security, which they should have incurred anyway, the cost of downtime, the cost of an "I'm sorry" package to its customers, and the cost of settling one of these class action lawsuits for next to nothing since there's likely little merit to them as thus far similar class action suits have gone nowhere. Class action suits pop up regularly. More often than not they go nowhere.




Anyone else amused that the firm ASeven's article references is one letter away from being The Pokemon Institute?
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 16:59
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Apr 27, 2011, 16:59
 
Nothing is going Sony's way this console generation.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 16:31
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 16:31
Apr 27, 2011, 16:31
 
But hey! You got that cheapie deal! That worked out great!

It did if you got it and installed it on release! It would suck if I hadn't gotten the account linked that first night. That code is worthless without a PSN account linked to your steam account.

That will teach you not to pre-order you savages!
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Apr 27, 2011, 16:25
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Re: Morning Consolidation Apr 27, 2011, 16:25
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PHJF wrote on Apr 27, 2011, 16:20:
You're every one of you missing the point entirely:

I still cannot play Portal 2 online.



But hey! You got that cheapie deal! That worked out great!

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