Prez wrote on Mar 16, 2011, 00:59:
The thing that bothers me about this is that Steam doesn't own the rights to all of the games he in theory would have lost had his ban held. Ethically speaking, the companies whose games he legally bought via steam owe him a license to use those games regardless of what Valve says or does. It's kind of scary to think that a company that does nothing besides act as a front end for a game they otherwise have nothing to do with can deprive the legal owner of a a a product's use for ANY reason. As much as I admittedly love Steam, that is always in the back of my mind. It's mostly a non-issue since I can obtain the games by other means should the need arise, but still this is a pretty hairy situation.
FooAtari wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 16:41:Sepharo wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 15:29:FooAtari wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 13:31:
Bloody hell, I am stunned be these replies.
So you didn't read the thread but you were stunned by the replies?
Where did I say I didn't read it? I did read over the thread, however due to the amount of posts I read over it quite quickly, and may have missed a few points.
Sepharo wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 15:29:FooAtari wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 13:31:
Bloody hell, I am stunned be these replies.
So you didn't read the thread but you were stunned by the replies?
FooAtari wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 13:31:
Bloody hell, I am stunned be these replies.
I don't think I saw anyone mention this, sorry if they did. But he DIDN'T break Steams TOS.
The TOS states you can't SELL or TRANSFER your account. And sure, if you don't like that, don't buy games on the Steam service.
But, he never actually sold his account. He SPOKE about selling his account, nothing against that in the TOS. So Valve should not have disabled his account until they had confirmed he had actually done so.
It's a bit like me saying "I'm going to kill you" to someone during an argument, and then of course, doing nothing of the kind. But then getting tried and found guilty of murder anyway.
Dev wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 09:07:
Thats why everyone selling software is very clear on calling them licenses.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Mar 14, 2011, 19:26:Thats why everyone selling software is very clear on calling them licenses.
Wonder if anyone has filed lawsuits on this stuff yet, considering it violates most consumer protection laws, and first sales doctrine.
Zoom wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 08:24:As I recall its an account recovery thing. You send them pics of your CD with serial and they will recover it for you, potentially recovering it to a different account for $10 each game.
Cant you resell your steam games for like $10 ? if i remember there is a steam-specific mechanism for that...
Jerykk wrote on Mar 15, 2011, 03:39:
They could be sued very easily. DMCA states that cracking software of any kind is illegal.