Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4

Double Fine's Tim Schafer is quoted on Eurogamer responding to Bobby Kotick's revival of their war of words, which had been dormant for a couple of months. Schafer calls the Activision CEO's criticism of Brütal Legend "sad," saying: "It's sad is that instead of just insulting me personally, he goes after the product of my hard-working team - a group of people he almost put out of work a while back," Schafer tells them. "But what's even sadder is that it took him two months to think of a comeback."
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 28, 2010, 07:49
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 28, 2010, 07:49
Sep 28, 2010, 07:49
 
brutal legend got fairly decent reviews. its in the 80s on metacritic anyhow, not that that matters.
Everyone on Bluesnews is synical, get over it.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 23:52
Prez
 
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 23:52
Sep 27, 2010, 23:52
 Prez
 
kxmode wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 20:02:
HellSlayer wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 19:42:
Oo

Well, at least you were on topic, somewhat.

Pretty sad when this is one of the most intelligent posts he has ever made...

I've never been a fan of the public pissing match. Keeping one's mouth closed is always the best strategy imho.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 20:14
Kxmode
 
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 20:14
Sep 27, 2010, 20:14
 Kxmode
 
zirik wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 20:05:
Vulkan wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 19:38:
Add Derek Smart into this and we'll really have a party.

you know how to summon him. go ahead do it!

This is more exciting than that time DEREK SMART DEREK SMART DEREK SMART got into a tussle with a Coke Machine! And by Coke Machine I mean the kind that dispenses cold beverages.

This comment was edited on Sep 27, 2010, 20:19.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 20:05
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 20:05
Sep 27, 2010, 20:05
 
Vulkan wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 19:38:
Add Derek Smart into this and we'll really have a party.

you know how to summon him. go ahead do it!
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 20:03
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 20:03
Sep 27, 2010, 20:03
 
Dr. D. Schreber wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 18:24:
C'mon, already. At least vaguely insult the man.

reminds me of po in kung fu panda. the scene where master shifu asked him to punch the dummy. he only used his finger.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 20:02
Kxmode
 
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 20:02
Sep 27, 2010, 20:02
 Kxmode
 
HellSlayer wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 19:42:
Oo

Well, at least you were on topic, somewhat.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:58
Kxmode
 
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:58
Sep 27, 2010, 19:58
 Kxmode
 
Two men enter, one man leave!
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:47
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:47
Sep 27, 2010, 19:47
 
Overon wrote on Sep 27, 2010, 19:35:
Where is the teacher that comes ends the verbal feud in the schoolyard?

None of these guys as high level executives inspire my confidence in their respective companies. They are children. Not someone you want to lead companies.

When they see each other in public at some convention, maybe there will be a fight that's posted to youtube.

How's the weather look up there on your pedestal?

You have no stake in this argument, if we turned the situation onto you and some weasel was talking shit about your wife or your family, or your team at work then you'd simply turn the other cheek wouldn't you, what a saint you must be.

I'll bet things look a bit different from Schafer's point of view where this suit not only put down his work publicly, he almost put his whole team on unemployment.

But hey lets hug it out right?..

/rolls eyes
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Sep 27, 2010, 19:42
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Sep 27, 2010, 19:42
 
Oo
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:41
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:41
Sep 27, 2010, 19:41
 
Tim, take your time.... spend a couple of hours writing a well thought out response and then come back and review it the next day.. no need to rush. If you just spend a little time at it you can slam someone and come off sounding magnanimous at the same time... especially against such an easy target.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:38
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:38
Sep 27, 2010, 19:38
 
Add Derek Smart into this and we'll really have a party.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:37
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:37
Sep 27, 2010, 19:37
 
Say what you want about Schafer and his games, Brutal Legend wasn't a great game, period. But atleast Schafer takes risks and creates a product.

Kotick doesn't.

Infact I'd argue men like Kotick stifle creativity.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:35
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:35
Sep 27, 2010, 19:35
 
Where is the teacher that comes ends the verbal feud in the schoolyard?

None of these guys as high level executives inspire my confidence in their respective companies. They are children. Not someone you want to lead companies.

When they see each other in public at some convention, maybe there will be a fight that's posted to youtube.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:14
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:14
Sep 27, 2010, 19:14
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Well, good thing I made popcorn last post.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:14
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:14
Sep 27, 2010, 19:14
 
I want John Romero as a run in special apperance in that Steel Cage match, maybe to attack the commentators and make them his bitches!
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 19:03
Dev
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 19:03
Sep 27, 2010, 19:03
Dev
 
I thought it was rather funny myself that it took him two months. But I thought of it while reading the interview with kotick, I didn't need schafer to say it.

I thought schafer had sworn off on the insults from fear it would hurt his business in the future? I find it entertaining but I'd hate for him to hurt his company over this.
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Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 18:37
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Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 18:37
Sep 27, 2010, 18:37
 
LOL! Maybe Schafer should have thought about his response for two months too.

Kotick hit him in the wallet. People who decide how the money flows into dev world have Kotick's three subjects of criticism at the top of their checklist.

Kotick's comments were probably meant for anyone who considers funding Schafer's projects in the future.

OUCH!
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 18:29
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 18:29
Sep 27, 2010, 18:29
 
This needs to be resolved in a Steel Cage Strap match. Kotick Vs Schafer, no disqualification, ends in pinfall by accident like all of Hulk Hogan's strap matches. Special guest referee is Randy Pitchford (which is why everyone forgets the ending.)
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 18:25
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 18:25
Sep 27, 2010, 18:25
 
Well, Kotick is certainly an ass, but that aside Schafer's game did go overbudget and overschedule, and it did end up not being that great according to most reviews, and it did sort of try and swindle people by not publicizing the RTS elements.

I don't think either side is the winner here.
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4
Sep 27, 2010, 18:24
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Re: Kotick vs. Schafer, Part 4 Sep 27, 2010, 18:24
Sep 27, 2010, 18:24
 
Jesus christ, neither of them are good at this. Kotick is just blatantly lying (yes, Bobby, we actually remember when Activision stated that Brutal Legend was one of the titles that got dropped due to it's lack of yearly exploitability) and Schafer is just terrible at comebacks. "It's sad that he's dissing the American dream and my team's fulfillment of it!" C'mon, already. At least vaguely insult the man.
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