They do the same with DVD's yes and with porn as well.. but not with music... usually...

Only exception is Nazi related material which is always a federal crime to own, produce or listen to. But here a distinction is made - this only applies when its glorifying Nazi's/Hitler or Nazi-Germany's actions. The Swastika is outlawed mainly to prevent Neo-Nazi's to use it as a Symbol (And if they do, have a legal handling on them)

eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 16, 2010, 10:19:
They are only available when you are above 18 yes.. and aside that, they are not openly shown in stores (although Stores might sell imports "under the table ,p") or allowed to be advertised to children (ie no advertising in non 18+ magazines)

Theres actually very very few things in Germany that are downright Banned. Quake is not banned, it was just refused classification (ie. 18+) so you have to buy an Import (either through proxy or yourself).

Fun Fact - I bought Doom 3 UK Version via Amazon.de and all i had to do was show my passport at the door to the postal man (they have an AVS for decades - this isn't something new in Germany).

And Doom 3 was refused classification as well - so you see...this is mainly Steams laziness and not censorship

Interesting. Do they do the same with music and DVDs also?

I'm in the US myself, and I remember a few years back GoGamer sold a lot of import games. For example, my copy of Jedi Outcast (Jedi Knight 2) - which I bought new back in 2002 - is from the EU.

They are only available when you are above 18 yes.. and aside that, they are not openly shown in stores (although Stores might sell imports "under the table ,p") or allowed to be advertised to children (ie no advertising in non 18+ magazines)

Theres actually very very few things in Germany that are downright Banned. Quake is not banned, it was just refused classification (ie. 18+) so you have to buy an Import (either through proxy or yourself).

Fun Fact - I bought Doom 3 UK Version via Amazon.de and all i had to do was show my passport at the door to the postal man (they have an AVS for decades - this isn't something new in Germany).

And Doom 3 was refused classification as well - so you see...this is mainly Steams laziness and not censorship

eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 16, 2010, 09:37:
Well, thats you randomly choosing an age you want to be. The only thing it verifies is that you can read and think logical.

In Germany AVS would mean Passport copy or Bank Account 1ct verified transactions OR Steam would send you an Form to your home address where you declare (with signature, IE legally binding) that you are above 18.

Why Steam doesn't do this is not confusing, it has no Office in Germany ;p

So the Quake games are not banned in Germany, but they're only available if you're above 18?

Well, thats you randomly choosing an age you want to be. The only thing it verifies is that you can read and think logical.

In Germany AVS would mean Passport copy or Bank Account 1ct verified transactions OR Steam would send you an Form to your home address where you declare (with signature, IE legally binding) that you are above 18.

Why Steam doesn't do this is not confusing, it has no Office in Germany ;p

eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 16, 2010, 09:09:
Indeed the only reason this problem exists is because Steam has no Age Verification.

I thought the age verification where they ask you your year of birth was it........

Indeed the only reason this problem exists is because Steam has no Age Verification.

Cool thanks bud.

Try this:

Id Super Pack @ Widescreen Gaming

Not only can you use widescreen resolutions in Quake (via the DarkPlaces mod) but using those directions you can add the music soundtracks back in (which aren't included in the Steam versions of Quake 1/2).

So I can't get the quake games to run with the resolution I want - anyone else having issues?

Riker wrote on Aug 15, 2010, 18:29:
Government censorship sucks.

No. American companies, who are too lazy to implement age verification suck!

But a proxie server does solve this problem in an instant.

Quake IV isn't in the "all QUAKE games" sale, lets blame Activision.

I dont think that would hold up in a court though. Its in the quake universe, using quake characters, and its name completely and entirely implies it is a Quake product.

Edit: And... it is a quake product.

Like I said. I think its a publisher thing. For example, why isnt quake 4 (a raven game) and Heretic 2 in there id / beth sales as well?

Heh, they'll say because it's "Enemy Territory: Quake Wars" not a Quake franchise game.

That's a shame, ETQW is actually a pretty cool game that never had the popularity I think it should have.

While Im sure its a publisher thing.. they advertise ALL quake titles... yet Quake Wars is not part of this sale. b000000000000

Government censorship sucks.