NVIDIA WHQL Drivers

New WHQL-certified version 197.13 are now available. There are new drivers for Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 7 64-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit, and Windows XP 64-bit. Thanks Charles.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 30, 2010, 07:33
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 30, 2010, 07:33
Mar 30, 2010, 07:33
 
I ran the bad drivers, and I will say - thermal protection DOES kick in after a while. Was in BC2 wondering why I was getting crap framerates - turned out I had to turn my fans up manually. in 2 minutes I was back at full speed.

No damage done. (but a bit of a heart attack)
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Mar 29, 2010, 15:49
Sho
 
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 29, 2010, 15:49
Mar 29, 2010, 15:49
 Sho
 
Whoops, got that wrong indeed then :-(. Thanks for the correction.
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Mar 26, 2010, 21:37
Ant
 
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 21:37
Mar 26, 2010, 21:37
 Ant
 
Dev wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 21:34:
And also, I'm pretty sure this is NOT the first time that nvidia has done this kinda card killing driver with fan issues in WHQL release (non beta) drivers. You'd think they would have started testing for that after it happened the first time (I recall reading about a similar issue a while back). I mean its NOT hard to throw a random nvidia video card in, and play a game and check the temps to see if its overheating. Its what, the work of 10 minutes?
Even if its 10 mins per card and you test 6 cards with 3 OS's, thats still not that much testing time, and you can automate all that with the other testing they do... presuming they do actually do testing.
I think they don't test enough. I noticed over the years, their quality has been degrading. I went to ATI for better support, even though ATI isn't that good but not bad as NVIDIA's.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 21:34
Dev
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 21:34
Mar 26, 2010, 21:34
Dev
 
And also, I'm pretty sure this is NOT the first time that nvidia has done this kinda card killing driver with fan issues in WHQL release (non beta) drivers. You'd think they would have started testing for that after it happened the first time (I recall reading about a similar issue a while back). I mean its NOT hard to throw a random nvidia video card in, and play a game and check the temps to see if its overheating. Its what, the work of 10 minutes?
Even if its 10 mins per card and you test 6 cards with 3 OS's, thats still not that much testing time, and you can automate all that with the other testing they do... presuming they do actually do testing.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 18:40
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 18:40
Mar 26, 2010, 18:40
 
Sho wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 17:44:
I wish people would realize that the driver with the fan issues was a *beta version*. You know, the kind of version you should only install if you're willing to deal with issues that may arise. This is a WHQL version.

I wish people would do a little more research before post

We are aware that some customers have reported fan speed issues with
the latest 196.75 WHQL drivers on NVIDIA.com. Until we can verify and
root cause this issue, we recommend that customers stay with, or return
to 196.21 WHQL drivers. Release 196.75 drivers have been temporarily
removed from our website.
link: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/announcement.php?f=14
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 17:44
Sho
 
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 17:44
Mar 26, 2010, 17:44
 Sho
 
I wish people would realize that the driver with the fan issues was a *beta version*. You know, the kind of version you should only install if you're willing to deal with issues that may arise. This is a WHQL version.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 17:32
Dev
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 17:32
Mar 26, 2010, 17:32
Dev
 
Prime95 is a quick free program that stresses your CPU (but nothing else, although it of course uses memory). You can even leave it running while you do other things like browsing etc.

If it ever says there's an error in the window, thats bad. Thats one way to tell if you've overclocked too much if you are into overclocking.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 10:28
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 10:28
Mar 26, 2010, 10:28
 Ant
 
InBlack wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 10:09:
Hmmm, the thing is the text errors are always different, which is why Im worried that its RAM issue. The 8800GT that im using has worked flawlessly on XP for the past two years and I doubt it would crap out on me now. Ive tried 5 different NVIDIA drivers, and none of them make a difference, within 5-10 minuites of running a game my system craps out with a BSOD and a terrible sound comming out of the speakers, after which it usually restarts.

Is there a program that I can use to stress test the CPU?

I should note that leaving the PC running for days at a time doesnt destabilize the system, neither does browsing, playing media files etc. etc.

How do I open the mini dmp files? Windows wont let me open them.
My GeForce 8800GT died under a year and I didn't use it much for 3D stuff.

Definitely try a LiveCD like KNOPPIX, Ubuntu, etc. and see if your PC is stable. Use memtest86+ v4.00 to test RAM. cpuburn can test your CPUs. IntelBurnCPU for Intel CPUs in Windows.

You should turn off that autoreboot from blue screens via System Properties' Advanced tab's Startup & Recovery section options. Also, use full dumps (takes a while to dump from blue screens if you lots of RAM). Use WinDbg (hard to use) to read the memory dumps (memory.dmp) and !analyze -v command.

Test different things. Definitely try memtest86 and other OS'. We just need to know what is causing the crashes.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 10:24
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 10:24
Mar 26, 2010, 10:24
 
pnag wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 07:30:
well fuck fuckity FUCK silly me for buying into MS's Bullshit. Fuck em. A curse on Bill Gates's Soul.

Sounds more like you could have a potential RAM issue. Download memtestX86 and try that, see if there's a hardware issue. Wonder if it turns out to be the case will you take back what you said?

Yes if its a RAM issue I will take back what I said.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 10:09
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 10:09
Mar 26, 2010, 10:09
 
Hmmm, the thing is the text errors are always different, which is why Im worried that its RAM issue. The 8800GT that im using has worked flawlessly on XP for the past two years and I doubt it would crap out on me now. Ive tried 5 different NVIDIA drivers, and none of them make a difference, within 5-10 minuites of running a game my system craps out with a BSOD and a terrible sound comming out of the speakers, after which it usually restarts.

Is there a program that I can use to stress test the CPU?

I should note that leaving the PC running for days at a time doesnt destabilize the system, neither does browsing, playing media files etc. etc.

How do I open the mini dmp files? Windows wont let me open them.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 09:58
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 09:58
Mar 26, 2010, 09:58
 
All modern processors will literally shut themselves off when they get too hot. I'm not sure what "protective foil" he's referring to, most AMD/Intel stock HSFs come in a plastic bubble with thermal paste pre-applied.

Most bluescreens are user configuration issues related to software. Another large chunk are a result of bad memory or other hardware issues. It's worth noting however that at one point Nvidia was solely responsible for over 30% of the BSOD's on Vista according to Microsoft, it's what lead them to change the display driver model for Windows 7.

It is very difficult to troubleshoot BSOD issues without a full text error to examine. If you want to post one I will have a look. Keep in mind that the 8800GT's are well known for having entire bad batches go out that are all now dying in the field and there is no cure for that save warranty/RMA.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 09:34
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 09:34
Mar 26, 2010, 09:34
 
nutshell42 wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 06:59:
1. Remove anything that has access to kernel space. That means especially anti virus software, firewalls and similar crap. Not just switching them off, purging them from your system. Then look if it still happens. I've never had a bluescreen on 7 with the exception of the 2 days when I tried Comodo. Then I had 3.

2. Power supply. You don't mention your power supply. If it's cheap no name crap, that might be it.

3. Heat. Use speedfan. Normally the stock cooler is more than enough as long as you remembered to remove the protective foil from the heat conducting pad. =)

For memory you can simply use memtest86, it's free. But unless you're overclocking memory related bluescreens shouldn't just happen during games but at seemingly random times regardless of usage.

Goddamn it! I dont remember there being any protective foil....oh well time to get my hands dirty again. But wouldnt I fry the processor if I didnt take it off?

As for power supply, I didnt mention in because I bought a new one it wasnt cheap but I cant remember the name. Its one of those modular ones.

1. isnt an issue since its a fresh install so other than the video drivers I have no other services running.


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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 08:01
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 08:01
Mar 26, 2010, 08:01
 
The Half Elf wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 00:09:
Dev wrote on Mar 25, 2010, 22:11:
Anyone know if these drivers have any fan issues? I dont want to go jumping on card frying drivers.

This driver resolves fan speed issues reported with version 196.75 drivers. NVIDIA asks that you remove 196.75 drivers and update to this 197.13 WHQL driver.

It's very hard to click the link and actually read what's there.

You know I did read through the changes and stuff and I didn't see that line. Thanks for quoting it.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 07:32
Dev
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 07:32
Mar 26, 2010, 07:32
Dev
 
Like the man says, use memtest86+. Let it run through a couple complete passes.
You can get bootcds that have it included, thats easiest.
Random BSODS are fairly often memory issues.
This will basically eliminate bad memory from trouble shooting. The other troubleshooting steps for other parts are all much more trouble.

Your computer can tell you the temps of your CPU, use a utility to read it. If its heat related CPU crashes you will know then.

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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 07:30
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 07:30
Mar 26, 2010, 07:30
 
well fuck fuckity FUCK silly me for buying into MS's Bullshit. Fuck em. A curse on Bill Gates's Soul.

Sounds more like you could have a potential RAM issue. Download memtestX86 and try that, see if there's a hardware issue. Wonder if it turns out to be the case will you take back what you said?
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 06:59
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 06:59
Mar 26, 2010, 06:59
 
1. Remove anything that has access to kernel space. That means especially anti virus software, firewalls and similar crap. Not just switching them off, purging them from your system. Then look if it still happens. I've never had a bluescreen on 7 with the exception of the 2 days when I tried Comodo. Then I had 3.

2. Power supply. You don't mention your power supply. If it's cheap no name crap, that might be it.

3. Heat. Use speedfan. Normally the stock cooler is more than enough as long as you remembered to remove the protective foil from the heat conducting pad. =)

For memory you can simply use memtest86, it's free. But unless you're overclocking memory related bluescreens shouldn't just happen during games but at seemingly random times regardless of usage.
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Mar 26, 2010, 06:15
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 06:15
Mar 26, 2010, 06:15
 
Im having problems galore.....

And all this after getting a new MOBO and CPU + Win7, *sigh*

Getting the BSOD under heavy load (pretty much any modern game) with this setup:

Intel Q8400
GT8800 512Mb
1 + 1 Gb Kingston DDR800
Asus PQ5-EM

My OS is Win7 32bit Ultimate. From what Ive read on these boards and elswhere on the net at first I thought it was a driver issue. Ive tried at least 5 different Nvidia drivers, the crashes still happen. The BSOD reports give random error messages, could this be heat related? Im using the stock cooler with my CPU which is a third of the size of the previous cooler Ive used (with the E4400).

Ive even tried forcing DirectX9 in games (AvP and Bad Company2) and the crashes still happen....

Today Im going to try a pair of friends RAM sticks as well as disabling my on-board sound card, if that doesnt work.

If none of that works....well fuck fuckity FUCK silly me for buying into MS's Bullshit. Fuck em. A curse on Bill Gates's Soul.


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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 04:50
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 04:50
Mar 26, 2010, 04:50
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haha, 182.50 - did I miss anything?
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 03:37
Dev
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 03:37
Mar 26, 2010, 03:37
Dev
 
The Half Elf wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 00:09:
Dev wrote on Mar 25, 2010, 22:11:
Anyone know if these drivers have any fan issues? I dont want to go jumping on card frying drivers.

This driver resolves fan speed issues reported with version 196.75 drivers. NVIDIA asks that you remove 196.75 drivers and update to this 197.13 WHQL driver.

It's very hard to click the link and actually read what's there.

Why should I RTFA when you'll do it for me?

Anyway, changelogs have been wrong before. Look at steam, it happens all the time that valve claims to fix something and has to repatch to really fix it.

Thanks for checking for me, but I think I'll wait a few days to see if people using them report any problems like last time.
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers
Mar 26, 2010, 01:53
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Re: NVIDIA WHQL Drivers Mar 26, 2010, 01:53
Mar 26, 2010, 01:53
 Ant
 
PHJF wrote on Mar 26, 2010, 00:17:
I have... 191.07.

I've long since reached the point where I stopped updating my drivers unless I have a problem.
Ditto. I am still using v9.7 for my ATI Radeon 4870 video card. No problems since then. I am waiting for the newer final/non-beta version with Flash acceleration support.
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