I don't even remember the last time I saw AA in a console game, that alone certainly makes a difference in this title on account of the resolution sillyness.

Like 90% of the console libraries use AA. AA is pretty much free on the 360 at least, it has hardware support for 4xMSAA. It's more rare to see a developer NOT use it.

Fun fact: the console versions actually render it in less than 720p and then stretch it out. I guess we're really getting on in years for the current-gen consoles...I don't even remember the last time I saw AA in a console game, that alone certainly makes a difference in this title on account of the resolution sillyness.

One of my roommates has it for the 360 and I had some grand ol' fun explaining this to him and showing him the difference. The fact that I run my PC to a 37" 1080p TV certainly helped. It's really striking, the way a decent PC title, even a straight-up port, looks like compared to the consoles at max-resolution with AA and AF enabled. Despite all the talk about how "graphics aren't going to get much better" etc etc, there's still plenty of ways to make games look better.

And then just to be a dick, I had him play maxed-out Crysis, too.

did you see the comparison video of all three platforms for MW2 at gametrailers.com? i thought the PC version had the most detail and best lighting. even if they lowered the resolution to match the 720p used on the console versions.

You know...gaming isn't all about "you". This is getting comical how upset some people are getting over the supposed disrespect toward PC gamers when they are LITERALLY being treated equally! HOW DARE YOU! "I'm not some lowly console gamer! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!? I'm a PC GAMER SIR! How dare you treat me like every other gamer!!"

What does PC gaming self-centeredness have to do with this? I'm talking about business logic.

This isn't a company that caters to one audience, they make games for everyone and god forbid they treat everyone equally...

All platforms shouldn't be treated equally. That's absurd. Do developers downscale the graphics on the PS3 and 360 to be in-line with the Wii version of a game so everyone gets equal visuals? If the Wii is the lead SKU, does the developer simplify the controls or outright require the classic controller so the appeal of the system's motion controls doesn't give it an advantage over the other versions?

PCs as a gaming platform offer several advantages over the consoles, especially as you get into the later years of the current console generation. Better graphics in many ways (you don't even need better textures; crank the resolution up and throw on AA and see how the same textures look compared to 720p or MW2's fake 720p,) a better interface for some genres, and the ability to have dedicated servers, an objectively superior way of implementing multiplayer, which the closed nature of consoles doesn't allow.

But I shouldn't be annoyed when a developer takes a game I've looked forward to for some time and strips down these advantages to bring it more in-line with the consoles, especially after having a track record of taking advantage of these things in the past? The only possible reason for it is business.

Interesting. Evidently the code for leaning was left in the game. I wonder why they decided to take it out? It's almost like they wanted to piss off the PC community in every way possible.

Dude.
C'mon.
You know damn well that a feature like this would require serious rebalancing, both for single player and multiplayer. How much playtesting would be necessary to determine if the challenge level is right now that people can look around corners without really giving themselves away? Would any areas of levels need to be changed for this? Would it make multiplayer less fun?
Time. Money. Time. Money. For what? Where's the reward on that risk?

they make games for everyone and god forbid they treat everyone equally...

They don't treat everyone equally in the first place though.

they do want to piss PC gamers off.

You know...gaming isn't all about "you". This is getting comical how upset some people are getting over the supposed disrespect toward PC gamers when they are LITERALLY being treated equally! HOW DARE YOU! "I'm not some lowly console gamer! DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM!? I'm a PC GAMER SIR! How dare you treat me like every other gamer!!"

This isn't a company that caters to one audience, they make games for everyone and god forbid they treat everyone equally...

On an apparently unrelated note, I love the new killstreaks. The Super Jolly Green Giant is awesome, seeing that monster hover above the battlefield is intense. I think the airport is my favorite map, there seems to be a lot more debris that goes flying in all directions with explosions. I love that map. Turned voice on last night, and this penny arcade comic would be a dream come true...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/11/16/

Hope to hell they implement that asap.

Interesting. Evidently the code for leaning was left in the game. I wonder why they decided to take it out? It's almost like they wanted to piss off the PC community in every way possible.

This comment pops up everywhere there's controversy over a port, and the answer should be obvious; they do want to piss PC gamers off. They want the platform to die, because there is simply so much more money to be had on the consoles. I-Ward themselves said that they had to fight to get Activision to let them make CoD games on the consoles in the first place, because they were thought of as a PC developer. They actively sought to change this, and we can see how much of that change has actually happened; the 360 is their lead SKU and they're deliberately stripping out features that are considered standard on the PC. It's been said time and again that IWNet is nothing more than a way of turning PC multiplayer into Live, and the comparison is entirely valid. Even those of us who have bought the game and have had relatively little problems getting it to function wouldn't argue that.

It's no different than Microsoft deliberately delaying the Halo 1 and Halo 2 ports (back when they were under the impression PC gamers would actually go gaga for Halo) because they wanted PC gamers to buy their console to play it. Large publishers literally do not want our money anymore, because even if they make a hit game for the PC, it's a small fraction of what they can make on the consoles. It's a win-win; PC gamers will jump ship, meanings more in DLC revenue, or they just quit the hobby entirely in protest of the corporate mentality changing it these days; those who do the latter are meaningless, because if you're not willing to support the most efficient business model, they don't want anything to do with you.

I-Ward's effort is a little different; they're trying to bring the PC in line with the consoles so that the same business model will function on a platform which has always resisted the efforts of profit-driven business mentality to wring more dollars out of it. The end result is still the same; anyone who jumps ship is simply an undesirable whose small amount of money they don't want since others will commit to giving them a lot more over a period of time.

The fact that this thought process is somewhat erroneous is why PC gaming isn't actually dead; others reject this mentality because they see there's still money to be made on the PC when you have DLC that would be akin to what us old timers used to call expansion packs (in other words, DLC that PC gamers who actively revolt against corporate money-making mentality will still find worthwhile and buy) as well as the lack of licensing fees.

No dedicated server was an issue for me. No lean? Can't say I cared. I have been playing FPS games for a long time and lean has always been (to me, anyway) a silly gimmick. I can understand why people like it, but it seems more like a pref to me. I don't have any trouble strafing out and back, been doing it for years.


Now dedicated servers? I don't see how anyone would prefer those be left out.

I used to spend 35 minutes picking a game now I just click play and forget about it, and in the end I think alot of people will realize this is the better way.

Are you retarded or something? 35 minutes just to pick a server to play on?

Since this is your first post here, I'm going to assume you are either a troll or a shill.

I used to spend 35 minutes picking a game

You might want to get that checked out.

Hopefully the loud and outspoken few don't ruin it for everyone else.

Yeah hopefully they don't ruin the game with more choices and options.
We wouldn't want anyone to have to decide between dedicated or match making.

I used to spend 35 minutes picking a game now I just click play and forget about it, and in the end I think alot of people will realize this is the better way.

If you spent 35 minutes picking up a game then that's PEBKAC and exactly why consoles were invented. You have a solution to your problems already, you don't need to turn a completely different platform into a console to get your enjoyment. That's the issue.

Ok the game sold 4.6 million copys in 1 day and they have 200,000 signatures. So on release day that is only 4.6%, and thats not to even say any of those people bought the game. Also not to say what the current sales stats are at and how many people signed more than once. Point being the people complaining is probably realistically under 1%. Unsatisfied customers are usually the most outspoken. There's alot of people out there who are satisfied with the way it is who won't say a word. I hope they don't add a server browser. I hated it at 1st all ps3 games are like that but the console has gotten me used to it and now I am a huge fan. I used to spend 35 minutes picking a game now I just click play and forget about it, and in the end I think alot of people will realize this is the better way. Picking a server isn't a huge of a deal as you think until you dont have to do it anymore. The game doesn't lag at least it hasn't for me. There were 52,000 people online this weekend... I haven't seen numbers like that since CS. I hope infity ward is smart enough to just ignore all this crap because my belief is the majority likes it the way it is. Hopefully the loud and outspoken few don't ruin it for everyone else.

Why dont they just STFU and get a different game and learn from their own failure that was buying this POS?

Interesting. Evidently the code for leaning was left in the game. I wonder why they decided to take it out? It's almost like they wanted to piss off the PC community in every way possible.

http://kotaku.com/5406255/modern-warfare-2-gets-dedicated-pc-servers-well-sort-of

Real enough for ya?

Ive even looked for it on piratebay and other sites and nothing. If it did exist then it would be all over the place. Guess what, it isnt!

http://www.destructoid.com/modern-warfare-2-gets-dedicated-servers-via-hack-155250.phtml

Of course that doesn't tell you where to get it, or if it's even publicly available yet. Still, it's only a matter of time.

Then I predict Activision will find a way to ban all private servers operating on steam. Meaning that if you want private servers and mods, you need a pirated (to remove steam verification) and hacked copy of the game. Sales of the PC version will drop off once fans of FPS games migrate to the superior illicit version.

Resulting in Activision and Infinity Ward finally adding all of the features the community wants, and dropping the price to $20 to lure back customers.

its a tasty white fish

mmhmm

Because they became addicted to COD

its a tasty white fish