PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera

Kotaku has some impressions of the PS3 edition of Dragon Age: Origins, revealing that only the PC edition has the ability to zoom out for a strategic top-down view, as this is not present in the console versions. The top-down view fits with BioWare's statements about this being the "spiritual successor" to the Baldur's Gate series, but there's no explanation of why it will not be part of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 editions. Update: As noted in our forums, this was explained by BioWare a while ago as being due to memory constraints on console systems.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 18:59
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Oct 16, 2009, 18:59
 nin
 

If true, that's damn cool.

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Oct 16, 2009, 19:21
Kxmode
 
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Oct 16, 2009, 19:21
 Kxmode
 
Take that consoles. In your face! Hurts so good!
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 19:38
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 19:38
Oct 16, 2009, 19:38
 
There was an official explanation, in a forum quote by one of the Bioware employees. I won't really bother searching for it, but what it said was that it's directly related to memory usage, because top down view takes too much memory for a console to handle.

There's gameplay differences too, with some fights being scaled down/split into separate waves in the console versions, for the exact same memory reasons.
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Oct 16, 2009, 19:54
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Oct 16, 2009, 19:54
 
What Dots said.
Derek French
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BioWare
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 19:57
Fion
 
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 19:57
Oct 16, 2009, 19:57
 Fion
 
Those of us in the community have known this for a few months. But yea, just one more reason the PC version is the best.

That and we get an entire toolset that was dedicatedly developed for use by the community similar to NWN.

And yea, as Dots said, the console version cant handle as much going on as the PC version so fights are smaller or split up, which also means the game is easier there.

I just hope everyone likes a traditional RPG with top down and some tough arse fights. So far every review has stated the game is anything but an easy RPG by any means. Some even listed it in their 'negatives' area, like a hard, PC centric, classic style RPG game is a BAD thing.

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Oct 16, 2009, 20:06
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In the walkthrough I watched the player, a player of old PC RPGs, commented he thought he would play the game zoomed out but ended up playing it closer to the ground. I have a feeling the same thing will happen to me.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 20:32
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 20:32
Oct 16, 2009, 20:32
NKD
 
Consoles crippled by memory problems? That never happens!
Old man trouble back again
Fucking up my plans like oh no, oh no,
I'm back to the black again
Gettin fucked up again, oh no, oh no.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 20:45
Kxmode
 
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Oct 16, 2009, 20:45
 Kxmode
 
Dance PC > console ... oooo. feels so good.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 20:46
Kxmode
 
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 20:46
Oct 16, 2009, 20:46
 Kxmode
 
Consoles crippled by memory problems? That never happens!

I remember there was a fighting game on Dreamcast that used to take FOREVER to load. I think it was one of the Street Fighter titles.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 21:08
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 21:08
Oct 16, 2009, 21:08
 
Hahahahaah suck it consoles! etc.

But yeah, that would seem to be a video memory problem. Can't draw out far enough. That's what happens with four year old tech.

I'm amazed the PC actually CAN do it. Most devs say "ah fuck it, we can't be bothered to make two different versions."

Good job, Bio.

Creston

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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 21:13
Fion
 
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 21:13
Oct 16, 2009, 21:13
 Fion
 
This game spent 5 and 1/2 years as a PC only title. It wasn't until EA bought the company in late 07 that it was pushed back a year + so Bioware could make console version as well. Typical EA right? Though in the end I'm glad they did. It meant the end of Xbox exclusives and crappy PC ports 1-2 years later). Not that the near 2 year delay hasn't lead to good things on the PC version, including expanded content, more polish and more detailed and capable tools.

So it can only be expected that with that much of a disparity between development on the PC and the consoles that the PC version would be far better.

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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 21:24
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Oct 16, 2009, 21:24
 
Just another reason I'm happy I pre-ordered. The wait might kill me, though.
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Oct 16, 2009, 21:25
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 21:25
Oct 16, 2009, 21:25
 
Awesome, wicked, marvelous! Although I knew this for AT LEAST a month already.

Fantastic, whenever I get into a discussion with a console player again on why PC > Consoles.. I'll simply say: "Dragon Age. Risen. Nough said."

I suggest y'all do the same.

One love,
Vince
Playing: Skyrim, World of Warcraft.
Future: Dead Space 3.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 21:34
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Oct 16, 2009, 21:34
 
Sweet. I'm actually considering pre-ordering this. Normally I wouldn't, but I've got that 20% off coupon from Stardock burning a hole in my pocket. I'm about 95% sure I'm gonna end up getting it anyway. Now I just gotta decide whether I want the regular or deluxe version.... hmmm...
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 21:50
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Oct 16, 2009, 21:50
 Prez
 
Top down is almost a must when trying to manage a large party based combat scenario, so this is very good news. It's a nice bonus that this will definitely give a bit of nostalgia for BG. Good choice Bioware.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 22:43
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Oct 16, 2009, 22:43
 Kxmode
 
miscomment...

This comment was edited on Oct 16, 2009, 22:44.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 16, 2009, 23:01
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 16, 2009, 23:01
Oct 16, 2009, 23:01
 Fion
 
Just another reason I'm happy I pre-ordered. The wait might kill me, though.

I've been waiting since 2002. I think we can wait another 2 and 1/2 weeks.


ok.. no we cant! DA NOW PLEASE!
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 17, 2009, 00:46
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 17, 2009, 00:46
Oct 17, 2009, 00:46
 
You can clearly this camera mode, and all PC camera options, in GiantBomb's QuickLook video:

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-dragon-age-origins/17-1477/
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Oct 17, 2009, 01:04
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Oct 17, 2009, 01:04
 
It's great to see a multiplatform PC game that isn't bottle-necked by the console versions. Lead SKU ftw.
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera
Oct 17, 2009, 01:23
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Re: PC Dragon Age Has Top-Down Camera Oct 17, 2009, 01:23
Oct 17, 2009, 01:23
 
Well color me shocked and delighted. Will this game have no consolitis at all?
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