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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 17:44
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 6, 2009, 17:44
Sep 6, 2009, 17:44
 
I think the Dual Shock has a much better design than the 360 controller. Really, the only reason MS moved the left analog stick was so that their controller wouldn't be seen as a direct ripoff of the Dual Shock. Having the sticks in symmetry feels a lot better to me. I don't care for the Xbox controller's trigger/shoulder buttons either. I much preferred the ones on the Dual Shock 2. The Dual Shock 3 definitely took a step back, as the new shoulder buttons don't feel nearly as solid.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 12:02
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 6, 2009, 12:02
Sep 6, 2009, 12:02
 
I wouldn't say "quickly," the DualShock didn't come to the US until 2 years after the N64 did.

But the Dual Analog controller (which came before DualShock) came out less than a year after the N64 was released.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 11:57
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 6, 2009, 11:57
Sep 6, 2009, 11:57
 
While it's obvious the N64 controller was designed for either D-pad or anolog use, it was made quickly obsolete my controllers that let you use both

I wouldn't say "quickly," the DualShock didn't come to the US until 2 years after the N64 did.

IMHO, Sony's Dual Analog/DualShock is about as good as gamepads come, which is probably why it's remained almost unchanged for 3 generations of consoles now.

Which is funny, the main reason I hated the PS2 and hate the PS3 is the controller. The design is what, 13 years old now? It's so uncomfortable. The trigger buttons suck, the analog stick placement sucks (placed where they fit, not where they belong), the general feel sucks. The 360 controller has the main stick moved to a more comfortable location, better triggers, and is sculpted to better fit your hand.
I can't fathom why anyone would prefer a 13 year old design.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 10:47
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 6, 2009, 10:47
Sep 6, 2009, 10:47
 
The wireless xbox 360 pod is great. I played prince of persia on the PC with it, so nice. It's also great for racing games.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 10:43
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 6, 2009, 10:43
Sep 6, 2009, 10:43
 
Well geez, who can argue with that logic? Rolleyes
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 09:25
PHJF
 
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 6, 2009, 09:25
Sep 6, 2009, 09:25
 PHJF
 
64 controller was total shit and you're an absolute moron to think otherwise.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 09:25
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 6, 2009, 09:25
Sep 6, 2009, 09:25
 
IMHO, Sony's Dual Analog/DualShock is about as good as gamepads come, which is probably why it's remained almost unchanged for 3 generations of consoles now. And even on the PC Logitech's Rumblepad is a carbon copy of it.

If I can give Microsoft one thing, they definitely rip off ideas with the best of them. The Xbox360 controller is by far the best I've ever used and it works with just about every Windows game I've tried in the past three years. It basically combines the old Nintendo controller style with the Dual Shock design but gives you wireless, removable batteries and great trigger buttons. The Dual Shock 3 triggers feel like mush, I have no idea why they went with em.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 6, 2009, 03:31
Prez
 
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Sep 6, 2009, 03:31
 Prez
 
The N64 had the worst controller in the world IMO. It was terrible. Unless you were one of the aforementioned 3-handed mutants. In which case you probably joined X-Men and didn't play Nintendo.

True, I'm not a console gamer, but we bought one for my son when he was little, and every time he asked me to play Mario Kart with him, I'd have to use that stupid thing.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 5, 2009, 23:26
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Sep 5, 2009, 23:26
 
I don't know why everyone's so down on Nintendo's controllers. I think the N64 and Gamecube controllers were a couple of the best ever designed. They weren't very good for games whose controls weren't designed with them in mind (durr), but they were amazing for the ones that were.

While it's obvious the N64 controller was designed for either D-pad or anolog use, it was made quickly obsolete my controllers that let you use both (i.e. Sony' Dual Analog controller). And the little yellow buttons weren't very good. The Gamecube controller was alright, but imho the weakest compared to the redsigned XBox controller and the PS2 controller.

IMHO, Sony's Dual Analog/DualShock is about as good as gamepads come, which is probably why it's remained almost unchanged for 3 generations of consoles now. And even on the PC Logitech's Rumblepad is a carbon copy of it.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 5, 2009, 22:58
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 5, 2009, 22:58
Sep 5, 2009, 22:58
 
I have longer fingers and a larger palm-print than most people, but you'd have to have pretty small hands not to be able to use the N64 controller.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:N64_controller.jpg

If you can press the D-Pad, the analog stick, the Z trigger and the left shoulder button at the same time, you must have freakishly deformed hands. That or you're just being an idiot. I suspect the latter.

Fact is, you never have access to every button on the N64 controller. If you want to use the D-pad and the L-shoulder button, you have to move your grip to the left side of the controller. If you want to use the analog stick and the Z trigger, you have to move your grip to the center of the controller. Sure, games could be designed to only use the analog stick/Z-trigger or the D-pad/left shoulder button but then what's the point of even having those buttons in the first place? A good gamepad lets you use every feature of the controller without having to move your hand.

And don't even get me started on the cheap C-buttons. Not only were they tiny but they also had really weak tactile feedback. They didn't feel solid at all when pressed, which is why most games didn't use them for common functions. The N64 controller was just plain bad and games were hindered by it.

Besides, WTF are you doing posting in the console section? Get back to the outside where you belong!

If I do that, does that mean you'll never post in a PC-related topic again? Please say yes.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 5, 2009, 21:53
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 5, 2009, 21:53
Sep 5, 2009, 21:53
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That's what I'm talking about, Jerykk. You weren't supposed to use the D-pad and the analog stick in any game I ever played. It was supposed to be either-or. If you ever needed to use both in an N64 game, it was a poorly-designed game.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 5, 2009, 21:20
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 5, 2009, 21:20
Sep 5, 2009, 21:20
 
The N64 controller was terrible. You couldn't reach everything without taking your hand off the controller.

I have longer fingers and a larger palm-print than most people, but you'd have to have pretty small hands not to be able to use the N64 controller. Like the size of a dime.

Besides, WTF are you doing posting in the console section? Get back to the outside where you belong!

SexBox, The First "Adults Only" Video Game Console.

It's got Jerykk written all over it.

Maybe they'll license the software to him use the Wii remote on it.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 5, 2009, 20:54
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Sep 5, 2009, 20:54
 
The N64 controller was obviously designed for mutants with three hands. You shouldn't blame Nintendo for your lack of a third hand.

The Gamecube's was very comfortable and I liked the button layout for the most part but it was hell to play fighting games on.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 5, 2009, 18:50
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Sep 5, 2009, 18:50
 
The N64 controller was terrible. You couldn't reach everything without taking your hand off the controller. For example, if you want to press the D-Pad while moving the analog stick, it was impossible.
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Re: SexBox
Sep 5, 2009, 17:09
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Sep 5, 2009, 17:09
 
I can't help but be reminded of this blast from the Past

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Sep 5, 2009, 15:14
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Re: Morning Consolidation Sep 5, 2009, 15:14
Sep 5, 2009, 15:14
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I don't know why everyone's so down on Nintendo's controllers. I think the N64 and Gamecube controllers were a couple of the best ever designed. They weren't very good for games whose controls weren't designed with them in mind (durr), but they were amazing for the ones that were.
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