That headline was Xbox 360 console sales down 60% from previous quarter

I really hate discussing/arguing anything with you, I have to constantly keep your facts in line as well as my own. Maybe I should take your training wheels off and let you crash?

http://kotaku.com/5321559/xbox-division-sees-66-percent-slide-in-09-profit-despite-11-million-units-shipped

You just lied to try save face for a company because you had no idea Sony was a publicly held corporation that posts its financial statements.

I don't care what Sony looks like or whether they save face or not... I do know the last statement from a Sony rep was that they lose money just on making the Slims, but when you take in to account every ancillary sale and income, they have been in the black since last year. Do I need to go link that too to keep you from hurting yourself?

http://kotaku.com/5344701/sony-losing-money-on-ps3-slim

I can think of less than 10 multidisc games on the Xbox 360 period, I'm not sure what point you were trying to make but it faltered as usual.

And it's very likely any game not multi disc is crammed to the brim in order to keep it at 1 disk, leaving a hell of a lot less room to optimize, compressed files, and use of less than optimal locations on the DVD to store info.

Funny how devs are not crying about this but instead crying about how hard it is to work with the PS3. If it's such a problem, how come we never hear about it?

It's not a problem, it's a fact. You can only do so much to optimize an old media format. You hit a brick wall at some point and it becomes common knowledge. As for your Xbot chime about PS3 being difficult to develop for, I have heard more people say they like how PS3 is and it has it's own set of advantages. You need to reread dev comments from people like the ones who made Red Faction, and even the ones from Bioware recently. I am sure you can find those on your own, I don't need to link that too, do I?

Yet again you fail to provide any links to actual graphs or anything at all to support your argument. Here I'll do it for you

Uh, ok, I think I am done arguing anything with you. You do more damage to yourself than any actual furthering of points. That link of yours goes to a gif.jpg file ( http://www.maxconsole.net/content.img/dvdvsbr.gif.jpg ) and has nothing to do with graphing performance of physical media... Am I expected to also search the internet to link proofs of your points now?

In other words, if Microsoft does it, they are the devil. If Sony does it, it's ok.

Xbox = 1 machine per year unless Red Ring of Death last time I checked.
Sony = 5 machines, transferable at any time.

I hate DRM period, but being able to use the non main game files on 5 different consoles is at least reasonable.

Wow you are damaged or something. Sony made SecuRom which does limit installs and made many games unplayable with activations and draconian DRM methods. Microsoft didn't make that, that was SONY.

Just because Sony makes something (that other people wanted to buy), doesn't mean they are to blame for it's use or abuse. Microsoft is the one that started the "Games for Windows" push. Buying up studios, making PC port to Xbox in general. Replacing the PC market with their own Xbox market.

Sony has existed for over a decade in harmony with PC gaming. It wasn't until Xbox came along that you got this destruction on a very large scale. I don't think Steam was some developer casually coming up with a new way to do things, I think this has been a MS board room concocted scheme along with Netflix from the get go. Those 3 companies along with probably a few others positioned themselves to corner and control the PC market, and either chase them to Xbox, or to Steam (or both). Destruction on an incredible scale in the name of preventing piracy to developers/investors, while really being about money and control for Microsoft and it's puppets. So yeah, let's put the blame where it belongs... Those who used the DRM and Microsoft.

Oh geez how generous of them! Restricting what I paid for only 5 times, they should get a medal!

There you go again... Sony you pay 1 time, use 5 different pieces of hardware. Xbox, pay 1 time, use only 1 place. I am not defending DRM, I hate it, but if I have to choose between the 2, Sony owns Xbox easily.