This is your entire problem in a nutshell though. First off, yes it's ludicrous.

Yes it is a problem because you seem to have fooled yourself in to ignoring the probability that failing systems are a very large source of hyper inflated sales figures. This is on top of the real reasons like apparently normal console life for an Xbox, people buying Elite for HDMI, or multiple systems in the same home.

Second, your personal situation does not apply to every other consumer in the universe.

I don't claim my personal experience is the same for everyone else, I can read on the internet in multiple locations. I can't help but see endless confirmation of ridiculously large return rates. It's every single Xbox owner I know as well. Even Fan boys who are stalwart defenders of Xboxs are priding themselves on how many Xboxs they have gone through. I have seen people claiming they have gone through over 10 xboxs since release. Even Joystiq (a report posted right here on Blues) stated 54ish % on Xbox failure and went on to claim if it was their own statistics, it would be well over 100%. It's Hyper inflated sales statistics, stop being silly!

Bluray adoption is going to be a slow and painful process,

Never claimed otherwise, even said it was expected. The same thing happened with Record to CD, VHS to DVD, floppy to CD then DVD. The point I was making is you can wait till later, or build your Blu-ray library now. It is better than streaming, way better...

Trying to pretend that capacity is all that matters is pretty ignorant too.

I agree, glad I didn't do that...

While we are on the subjects of things you misunderstand, my sig is about how a 3 year old XBOX 360 game I own, and own DLC for, is suddenly getting multiplayer removed. I always hear how on Xbox Live there are things being removed (not so on PS3). What's worse is a company other than microsoft can suddenly decide to negate my ability to play multiplayer on a game I own (and have paid for DLC on) even if I pay for Xbox Live gold. That's not ok to me, and it draws their entire control, and ability to run an online service in favor of gamers in to question. If it can happen on this game, it can happen on any other game a non MS company decides to pull the plug on. If you want to support that kind of service, even champion it, and call me stupid, then go for it, I lost just about any respect I had for you ages ago. Another difference between this issue, and what you said about Warhawk is, that you will still be able to play Warhawk multiplayer... I can't say the same thing for Chrome Hounds.

One of the main reasons for most games to have mandatory installs for caching purposes on the PS3.

I wouldn't go down this road. Xbox load speeds are way longer, and they have added entire installs just to compete. Xbox is the low machine in this respects, it's ridiculous to even talk about small 1 gig installs on PS3 when Xbox is produced not to have to, but users are doing 9+ gig installs to get acceptable performance anyways... It's a fact that Xbox installs are longer to accomplish, and require a ton more space if you choose to install the games, or you can play it with slow ass loads. But there's nothing wrong with that. You seem to think it's bad but I guess the list of things to prop up the failing Xbox with is getting shorter and much less believable. BTW any installs to a disc is a bonus for speed. Talking about the need to do it as a bad thing is ignorance... I wish PS3 had full game installs as an option, but the PS3 doesn't need it, Xbox however does.

Can you condense your responses a bit? You replied 4 times in a row and the posts are becoming unmanageable to respond to.

I responded directly to the people who were quoting to me on a post by post basis. Not interjecting comment after comment with new posts like you do. PS3 is the better buy for every possible reason I can think of. Is that condensed enough?

This comment was edited on Aug 29, 2009, 16:41.