You cannot play the console version against the PC version as far as I have heard. So how would it affect console sales?

The logic of publishers is that if people receive the PC version free (easily done as we all know) they won't spend the money on the console version (private servers for pirated versions of games are all over the place now). Then there's DLC. the 360 version will most certainly get DLC that can be charged for (particularly now that its such a huge seller) while the PC user base has shown a significant resistance to paying for what they deem to be "part of the game". It would be a PR nightmare to resolve the two camps.

They probably planned to release the PC version a couple of months after console demand died down but sales are still booming.
EA/DICE have repeatedly said they were surprised at just how popular the port has turned out to be hence my theory that the "much work still to be done on the PC version" is utter crap. Especially in light of just how far back its been pushed. DICE is too experienced to have missed the mark by that long.

Maybe I'm wrong but there's just too many publishers engaging in this practice now for me to actually beleive a small-ish game like this is having such a hard time getting its PC port out the door.

Whatever.

I played the 360 version and its not my cup of tea anyway. I'd rather reinstall BF42 or go play the BF2 versions of the same maps.

This comment was edited on Aug 22, 2009, 11:58.

At first, I was pretty angry after reading this. That is one HELL of a delay considering that the console version has been out for weeks and that this series was started on and thrived on PC. But remembering just how terrible the console version sounded, I took a deep breath and started allowing a small hope, that EA is really going to make this an honest-to-goodness PC game, to take the place of my rage. I really don't expect much from EA these days, but who knows? They actually may put out a BF 43 that is worth playing on PC.

Not sure why people bag on Jeryyk. I agree with most everything he says as his statements are usually well thought out and written.

I'm the one that goes on tangents.

There's truth in both statements. Yes, the console versions took priority and DICE probably didn't even touch the PC version until the other versions were in alpha. However, the fact that they are delaying the game shows that they actually are concerned about quality. Since PC doesn't have any certification, they could have just released a completely broken game if they didn't care about quality.

Let the record show that on Friday August 21st 2009 Jerykk and I agreed on something. People giving them shit for actually enhancing the PC version should get bent. They could have easily crapped out anything for sales if that's all they cared about, BF is a well established franchise that sells on name alone.

Not just 360, but also PS3 in July.

I'm a 2nd Lt Gold. I'm decidedly mediocre.

Hump, your last statement only fuels my point. EA would sell this game early/mid December and it would NOT affect Console sales in the least!

You cannot play the console version against the PC version as far as I have heard. So how would it affect console sales?

PLUS the consumer has a small percentage that would buy both!

Again, your economic thoughts are not adding up here. Is your last name Bernanke or Greenspan by chance?

It is a huge update to the original maps. I've been playing it on my 360 and it's a blast! The new physics and destroyable buildings etc, make major changes to how you play.

I've totally been looking forward to using a mouse on this game (since I can't hit anything with a controller) so this delay makes me sad...but hopefully it will make it a better game.

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QA my ass. They started the PC build when they finished the console versions.

Yeah that might make sense except... this... is... a... live... game...

meaning....?

is'nt this pretty much just a redo of a few maps?

Its not out the realm of possibility that they would delay the PC release in order to maximize console sales.

Yeah that might make sense except... this... is... a... live... game...

I was semi-interested in this game, but by the time it comes out, OpFlash 2 will be out. Hell, maybe even Angel Falls will be out.

Another American economics failure comment. So you're going to tell me that they would skip the holiday XMas grab and push to next year? What a tool. If they did what you stated, they would simply release this game around Thanksgiving or mid December to get the christmas, oops, sorry, politically correct America now, "holiday" cash grab.

seeing your a fucking pro at economics you should know that sales of consoles vs PC is somewhere around 10-1. Its not out the realm of possibility that they would delay the PC release in order to maximize console sales.

To those that said I'm full of shit, you guys seem to forget that many of the current cross-platform titles now being released sees the PC version not being released for at least two months AFTER the console version. Its to prevent cannibalizing of the console sales. Some publishers admit to the practice, some like to use the insulting "we're holding back to polish it".

And when the game comes out and is buggy on initial release (this IS dice we're talking about) who do we get to yell at?

The Sky is falling!

WTF does any serious PC gamer care about this game anyway?

It's a step backwards.

"wide peripheral support " ? directinput was invented for a reason you know. its not rocket science to have multiple inputs.

Oh right, you HARD CODED the console inputs....

DirectX 9 and 10 - you code for dx10 and have optouts for 9. not difficult - even for the console version.

Oh right, you HARD CODED the console graphics....

VoIP - directsound takes care of this, even for the 360 I believe.

let me guess....

And I care about this piece of consolized crap why exactly???

they gave the console version dev priority. they're just trying to spin it as a quality assurance thing. nice try.

There's truth in both statements. Yes, the console versions took priority and DICE probably didn't even touch the PC version until the other versions were in alpha. However, the fact that they are delaying the game shows that they actually are concerned about quality. Since PC doesn't have any certification, they could have just released a completely broken game if they didn't care about quality.

this is just one more stab in the back to the PC as a serious gaming platform

BF1943 is clearly a BF for casual play compared to the old PC exclusives so I don't see how not having it is a stab in the back to the PC gaming.

With the way DICE+EA has been going these past few years, it seems more like we don't even need them and their type of games and lack of support. PC gaming can do without DICE+EA. Another company will fill the gap and make lots of money.

This comment was edited on Aug 21, 2009, 03:06.

"To put it simply they (MS) are scared to death of everyone grabbing the PC version"

Another American economics failure comment. So you're going to tell me that they would skip the holiday XMas grab and push to next year? What a tool. If they did what you stated, they would simply release this game around Thanksgiving or mid December to get the christmas, oops, sorry, politically correct America now, "holiday" cash grab.

On a more serious note, this is just one more stab in the back to the PC as a serious gaming platform. Pretty soon PC Games will be as common on store shelves as Intellivision cartridges are today....

Steam and online niche sales games will keep it going for awhile. But if I had to bet money? I think we are due for a complete gaming meltdown similar to what happened to Atari, Coleco and Mattell. Too much of the same shit and boring same old same old games.