In response to number 80. The reason these arguements are 'trotted' out every time this debate occurs is because many of them are valid. In response to your comments
1. Games are Sheit! As I said in my post #37 it isn't that MOST games are sheit, but certainly the ratio of functioning games on the shelves and buggy pieces of crap has changed dramatically over the last few years. So, sadly, certain games that are phenominal are so bug ridden that they are unplayable by many (Ultima Ascension anyone?) I mean there have been several MMORPGs lately that have been released that weren't playable online out of the box!!! And, as I also said in post 37, MANY developers release demos that do their products no justice (Alien versus Predator 2, Medal of Honor....the list goes on) I am MORE inclined to buy a game when I can TRULY see what it has to offer. And, as to not supporting certain publishers,...that is a hard request indeed. INcreasingly this is a business that is dominated by a very few publishers. And each of those publishers (possibly with the exception of Blizzard) has some real stinkers under their belt. If I were to stop giving my money to publishers for releasing buggy product I would have to switch to console gaming entirely.
2. Games are too expensive. As I said before I float somewhere in the middle in this debate and I do not dispute that even if games were cheaper there would be people happily pirating them. BUT you cannot tell me that cheaper prices would not be warmly received by the public and reflected in sales. Look at the enormous commercial success that Serious Sam was. If one of the publishing companies could build a reputation of releasing very good games at budget prices I can personally guarantee it's success. So, clearly, price IS an issue.
3. It's not real stealing, like stealing a car. As pointed out by #80 and before that by me this is not a fair comparison for many reasons but the most obvious is this: If you bought a new car and it wouldn't run out of your driveway but worked fine in your neighbors and you couldn't return it, wouldn't you characterize that as theft on the part of the DEALER? If you bought a car that occasionally and randomly stopped running or did dangerous things during use when new and you had to spend hours of your time fixing it to run properly wouldn't that also be theft on the part of the DEALER? (the recent installation programs that, when uninstalled, wiped portions of people's harddrives out comes to mind...)
4. Piracy helps some products.
Piracy DOES help some products and, for the record, I pirated Max Payne and then liked it so much I bought it...that helped the developers now didn't it?
5. Puts bright young boys behind bars.
Come on! Get a life. You need to open your eyes to the fact that the government only cracks down when it serves it's best interest. It is sad but true. If there weren't so much money in the Microsoft lobby I guarantee this would not be the issue it is.
6. What about our RIGHTS?
I agree with number 80 about how frighteningly conservative and totalitarian the US is getting but, as I said in #37, I also support the rights of developers who do good work to get paid for it. That is why I buy the games that I like.
This comment was edited on Dec 19, 11:18.