HAHA whatever said "Check out Mutant Storm: http://www.pompom.org.uk I dare you all to play this game and tell me it's not fun."
You didnt happen to write thsi game did you?
It might be fun, but I am guessing it aint no Half life?
Maybe Ill try this out on laptop when I am riding in a car or soemthing boring.

Yea I only installed Steam to get those latest Half-Life Movies, and I didnt like having to do that at all, why have to install that software just to download some Bink Movies.
Yea listen up people better start complaining now, you let these companies start getting used to putting stuff like this on your PC and they will all start doing it. I think allot of times its the older guys that have the right attitude towards this, they are allot more used to the concept that they shouldnt have to run anything to use someones product, and that the voice of the customer should be more important than worrying about the people that steal games, in other words dont piss off your real customers to get rid of people that are copying your software.
I buy allot of games, I dont buy allot of other software actually sometimes I copy other software, but my computer room at home is almost overloaded with bought video games boxes, most that I will never play again.
There is so much software that tries to do shit like this now adays. The guy that said that everytime you install crap like this and it runs in the backround makes the chances of having PC problems allot more, is RIGHT ON TARGET here. You install windows and you right away have a dame MS Instant Messager on the task bar running, you need to turn off, then there are like 100 other programs that somehow think that they deserve a space on your taskbar...
RealAudio
QuickTime
Winamp
Winzip
Most Mail programs (I know Netscape did this)

There are tons more, feel free to add to this list.
I spend most my time affter a install figuing out haw to get the dame icon off the task bar, and make sure it dont run anything in the backround. I know that RealAudio used to run the actual app pretty much in the backround the whole time, just not showing itself, why? because it makes it start faster when you click a real audio video link. Like as if I want that thing running all the time, I might watch Real Audio/Video once a month if that, let the app start up right then for christs sake! I am sure Microsoft Media player does this anyway, but its now built in the OS so much it is probally always runnnig or something.
It always makes me laugh when I go checkout someones pc and the taskber is just filled with shit, and they are having computer problems. And now to play a certain game they want to make you run something like that all the time, shit!
Its like everyone is tring really hard to get a spot on that task bar. I to doubt this will hinder in anyway peopel that really want to copy this game. this sounds more of a way for Valve to keep track of its customers, we are living in a highly comercialized and marketed worl that stuff like this is just everywhere and it gets upsetting.

This comment was edited on Sep 12, 10:49.

Again, thanks whoever wrote this letter to Activison also BTW, I think this was very much needed, I mentioned this on Blues one other time, because some demo what a fileplanet exclusive.
I really hope Activision wakes up on this one.

I refuse to pay for a subscription service to download game demoa maybe cause I got used to downloading them for free, with the idea that if i like the demo I will go buy the game. I will not whine about the fact about the money etc... to me its really not about the money, its hard to put my finger on it, but I guess it always gets me upset when I see middle men tring to come in and make a buck on things.
These game sites like fileplanet used to be free to get users and thier name out and about, most there software used to be free also, I used gamespy back when it was a much smaller simple peice of software someone wrote to help people out.
Now they are more a bussiness that is about making money, there is nothing wrong with making money, we all want to make money. But something still stinks here, in the same way that the Record lables use arts to make money almost.
These guys make deals with companies alike Activision, probally something like this, I will advertise your games write good reveiws really get the kids to like the game you make, since it a pretty good game anyway but kids think we know what it is we are talking about, big falshy sites and all that. and you give us exclusive rights to release your demos before others can get it. Ok thats all fine, and all in all I cant blame fileplanet, they suck but whatever I dont have to pay thats the way it works, fine!
But I do blame Activision, a company that i have paid tons of money to for a long time supporting their games and all that, they dont really owe me anything cause most the games were great, Quake etc... but they are pretty much forcing my hand here, they are saying if you want this demo (that we know you are dieing to get hold of) at the same time as Joe Dumass down the road you need to buy a fileplanet membership. I am sure people with a fileplanet membership dont have a probalem witht hat, but I do, their are tons of us out here that just want to download a demo of a game that we know we will probally love, maybe give them feedback on it and probally buy any sequal also. why should I have to give money to stupid ass fileplanet for anything? just for a download that many other game sites would be happy to let me get from thier servers.
Shit with the game industry becoming a billions of billions dollar market you would think these guys would launch their own download servers and offer the demos to as many kids as will come get it. not make people pay a membership to 3rd parties for letting them download it, thats crazy.
Plus I really feel for game sites that dont get the option to let their users download games that they might want to offer and other sites can offer it cause of thier deal, its bad news, no need at all for this. If you pay for fileplanet them fine you use them and get your fast downloads etc... but still let the rest of us just got get it from somewhere elase and not have to jump on IRC and beg others for it :/

I own and play both XBOX live and alot of PC games.
Even though i am sure devleopment for PCgames is alot harder to do for support reasons, I still think playability is alot better for FPS games.
I still think I can WAY out manuver a person with a gamepad when i am on a mouse, I can turn faster when i want to be be dead precise when i want to also.
Playing unreal tourny on my XBOX live makes me want to grab a mouse so bad.
Halo was a great game, but things like AI and stuff will or should be that same on the PC, and the PC definitly still has alot better graphics resolution, wich is a HUGE DEAL.
Not to mention once you get online I do like to type in chat windows personaly, some games I would prefer to just talk on a microphone but some it if better to have a chat window, especialy once you get into games like everquest or something on a console, how you going to play that with no keyboard and text is still a BIG problem for NTSC televisions.
As awsome as halo was it left me wanting to play it with my buddies online and even though there are some ways to do that, it sucks.
PC are for now still the leader in my book, but that my optionion, that may have to do alot with personal preference so flame way if you like, Some game just play better on a console (sport games etc...) but I tend to like fantacy role play or action combat FPS myself and i am hooked right now on BF1942 online multiplayer.

I never did get to play this game, But I did buy it its still on my self on my desk.
This game pissed me off, cause I spent a week tring to get this game to let in to play. I went throught he Support chat channel I think at the time, I can hardly remember anymore. I do remeber being very fustrated and wanting to just burn the F'ing thing.
The number I had to enter on the website to start the game or something was not working right and they had some website to reset it, and it would email me a new code or something that still didnt work at all.
I never did get the issue resolved. and the customer support was the worst I have ever seen, there was no phone number at all on the box or on the website. that is always a big problem, I mean if you want me to pay you a monthly fee to play your game as least have a phone number I can call you help me get the thing working right gezzzz.
I never even saw the thing run once, got pissed and swore I wouldnt buy another game maid by this company.
You know as a consumer the right I do have is to not purshase something and when something hits my pocket for 50$ then doesnt do what it says, I mean this wasted my time thats about it, then you eventully just have to take a stand and say hell with it, screw these guys.
Kinda sad cause them might have been good, and I am sure it was just bugs and the fact you didnt have things worked out that good at the beginning of the game going online, alot of this might have been fixed. But I still think that at some point in time people have to say hey I bought a game and wanted to go home nad play it, not wast a week of my time trying to.
And should just give up, more inclined people might have tried to get their money back, but I just chalked it up as a bad experience and wont be buying any more games from these guys, and no second chances.

I agree about the fact that you have to know what to expect.
I remember teh Q1 leak and it looked terrible but I am always interested in looking at the technology, I dont care if it runs at 5 fps I just know that thats cause its a alpha for the most part.
I like to see the screenshots move at all and get a feeling for the engine.

I am sure that Blues wont let us post that info here, That has been the case on almost all boards I searched.
I did finally find a really good place to grab it on IRC.
But its rough the searching sucks.

I belive ATI leaked it, there was a IRC post talking about this.

I always thought it would be better to do a movie about Doom, But instead make it take place back when DoomI came out and make the Movie about a kid that starts playing Doom and while playing the game the game starts to type to him or something and monsters almost taunt him and try to take him into the DOOM world or something, I had alot ideas before about this, probally also the drugs back then and also Doom was such a big thing to me back then, It showed me or made me think ALOT about where PC games might go, since being the first game that really seemed 3D to me, made me really feel like I was running around in another world and killing things, even though the graphics were not as good as they are now, seemed like my imagination really helped alot backthen and made the game UBER scary.
Also nights of wierd dreams while my mind was still getting used to that dizy feeling after playing Doom all day and night, made me think of a scary movie where the game draws in a person and taunts him to keep playing with it.
Could be really kool. Alot better than another space monster movie. would more focus on the game itself and the gender.
Oh and make it really satanic feeling, no PG rating, R only for sure.
I can think of alot of crazy stuff that could be thought up here.

This comment was edited on Sep 27, 00:29.

Someone help me here? I go to my in game server browser and it just says querying master server and never comes back with anything?
Whats the deal with this?
I just downloaded it installed and cant find a game to play!

I really am loving this demo!
I had been playing alot of RTCF MP but this is alot better, I still like the player movement maybe alittle bit better and the classes seem to pan out better in RTCF but there is just so much depth added to BF1942 from the planes and tanks and jeeps, almost everything you see you can interact with, that is a turrent or even the battle ships are steerable!
The first time you get shot out of the sky eject out of the plane parchute down to the ground and then take out 4 or 5 guys to capture a base, is really awsome, games just keep getting better and better huh! I am really starting to like the older tanks and WWII battles alot more than the future look of q3 and Unreal more everyday, adds alot more flaver and character to the game.

This comment was edited on Sep 9, 01:07.

Haha what?
You going to make this quick?
Please do in fact STFU!
I for one enjoy watching 3D real time graphics get better and have a hudge respect for John.
Youa re right he doesnt make games he makes engines, and I have enjoyed alot of idsoftware games even post Romero.
And alot of the games that were built via Johns engines that were not id games.
But I want to buy his games thats my choice, I will be the first in line to buy the game, and after everyone talks about how awsome it is, I bet you go buy a copy also.
As far as it not being a game its a 3d modeling display, if tic tac toe is a game I also think running around killing monsters etc... qualifies.
I like playing alot of different type games and sometimes the are alot more in depth, but sometimes i just love running around killing shit and being scared buy stuff, its simple YES but it is grass roots fun and I will probally always enjoy it. One thing about games you dont have to play just one, you can play many. I have no problem giving John my money I probally owe him more than I have gave him already for the hours of fun I have had on his engines.
One thing I love about John Carmack is that he is 1 guy that has always talked to the community always been ahead of others, even though others may have more resources alot of big companies I am sure would love to come out with the technoloy he does before he does but he seems to always stay on top, thats a far harder thing to do in todays times, when big companies buy up anything and anyone that gets a new idea or technolgy. John stays on his own side, and even though people like to bash him about swaying his judgment for the wrong reasons, I find that I dont buy it and he is mostly telling people like he sees it and sometimes does have to correct himself, wich gives him more clout in my mind anyway.
I find it hard to belive there will be all that many bugs in his games post demo and I have always been very hapy with the stabability of the engine itself, bus may be in game play but the 3d engines has always seemed very stable to me, in fact I would think that is one reason why other companies choose to use id engines over others, they seem to work on alot more systems without troubles.

STERN RULES and Carmack is a GOD
I can like them both still right?

Can't believe that I am reading this here... about Carmack's speech impediment... Like if you geeks, trolls and low lifes look like Adonis or Hercules or act like Einstein.

Probaly don't even have a girlfriend, a job and friends whatsoever.

This makes me wanna play singleplay again. So that I can avoid scumbags and bullies like those loser trolls here.

Bah. Carmack is a genius and you should respect him deeply for what he brought all of you.

HERE HERE !!!
had to post this again
People really should bow down to this man, I know he had made my life alot better.
I lvoe this guy for bring me Doom and it just keeps coming

#68
"I have to ask...how far can a game take this stuff before it's not fun anymore? I've loved each Quake game that has been released, I play games everyday and make games for a living...

...but I don't want to watch satannic rituals, or flesh being torn apart...nuff said."


To each his own,
I love santanic rituals and flesh being torn apart
thats just me, make it more bloody and scary the better.
It makes the mood that much better.
I enjoyed DOOM that much more cause there was that element of satan in there

I think this game will be great as long as they keep doing what they are doing now, and dont listen to people on this board.
Scare me and I will love it!

As far as alot of people saying alot of BS about ID is not making the game they need to be making etc...
I think, they are making the game they want to make, enough said,
ALot of this kind of banter is like the stuff people say about bands once they get popular, you will never make them happy once they make money cause you can never go back and make that first album everyone loves.
Well you just have to make games for yourself,
I think Carmack does this, I think with Q2 & Q3 he was just pushing engine tech,
Now he is looking into doing the same and someone has maybe lead him the path of making it scary liek the first DOOM.
Dont worry if its the same DOOM you loved, this will be new and different and love it or leave it.
Carmack is a very rich man, and dont have to do anything he dont feel like doing.
People posting stuff about that makes sound liek a sell out is nuts, I am sure he does what he likes, and still keeps Id a small company cause of this.
My 2 cents

BTW, as far as Coop goes , dont worry about that,
I am sure it would be hard to work into the game.
But give ti time and how long do you think it will take for people to come out with a Coop mod?

This comment was edited on May 27, 00:35.

The link to 3dgamers.com above is bogus but someone below posted this link on 3d gamers
http://www.3dgamers.com/dl/games/doom3/doom_iii_legacy_high.zip.html
Thanks for that, dont know how they fond it on there.
But that is the right file,
the above just points back the the older mov from this mourning.
Someone correct the link above please! before we get more kids cusing on here.

"The Xbox displays graphics on an HTDV at 1920x1080, you fucking moron."

There is no Xbox version available, you fucking moron.

Umm, I own a HDTV and a XBOX and use the high def connectoer with it.
Unfortunity you couldnt be more wrong about that though.
MOST games, in fast I have yet to see 1 single title that actully uses this option. Maybe this game will, but intill the game itself says it will utilize the HD option, you are not looking at anything more than regular NTSC.
It is pretty NTSC though.
Most titles this is not even a argument here you can look at it and tell, real HD is like changing your monitor from 480x640 to 1024 x 768 on a monitor, you will notice it right away. I could post more example of this.
You do setup the xbox to let it know your tv supports 1080i or 720p but the game itself has to use the option.
So the XBOX can output 1920x1080 (1080i) or even better 720p
But untill games start supporting this on the XBOX its kinda a waste, hopefully we will see some titles useing this.
The game should say on the box HD support or something.
I am still alittle pisses about somewhat false advertising on this subject since, most people just asume that since the box says HDTV the games they are playing are. this should be made alot more obvious.

This comment was edited on May 17, 00:24.

Why is it, footage like this gets out, and its always a cam corder watching a monitor.
Couldnt SOE actully release a video of this thing with good quality, no retard messing it up, and good sound etc...
I mean if they going to let someone video tape it, why not let others see it, with out haveing to see a low quality version.
Drives me nuts.
They should release more video of this game, eveyone would like to see as much as they can give us I am sure.

I paid 40$ for this game and have yet to be able to get my user name and password to work at all.
I have writen email and posted to thier boards etc...
And i get one guy that reset my password he said that is the same thing that I did fromt he web page form!
I hate it when tech people assume you are having a basic problem and just reset something and that aint it.
This is rediculous and I have posted about it to them they dont respond at all.
I still cant log in, when I go to the form it says that my username and password are valid and the to wait for the server to sync (means databases are not the same and they suck).
Anyway I have waited weeks and when I try to login it says invalid name and password.
There is no way to call these people no phone number is ever given! cause they know they suck I am sure.
I used to want to play it but know I would rather watch the box burn.
Screw these people that game is a rip off anyway! you can tell when the people that are making the game dont have the amont of people or server power to support it.