Drayth wrote on May 26, 2020, 00:13:
As far as "#6" goes Mr. Smart is not acknowledging a few facts: A large portion of the initial claims were dropped, and the remaining were pretty much slaughtered by Amazon's response to Crytek about whether CIG was breaking their license agreement by using a different engine (Lumberyard).
"“Normally we wouldn’t discuss a customer relationship — those relationships are confidential and we take that very seriously. However, given the circumstances, we have asked CIG for authorization to share, and they have given approval. We can confirm that yes, Amazon did license Lumberyard to CIG in 2016, and we included Cryengine (what you licensed to us) as part of that license to CIG.”"
Immediately after that email Skadden dropped out (gee, I wonder why) and the whole thing began to wind down with Crytek hiring a smaller set of lawyers to handle the wrap up. Unfortunately the whole thing ended in a settlement, so no definitive "winner", but it's pretty easy to work out who had the stronger arm in the lawsuit.
Here's an older, yet still telling list of Mr. Smart predictions vs reality.
1) The Crytek v RSI/CIG lawsuit was filed on Dec 12, 2017.
2) The Crytek v RSI/CIG lawsuit settlement was finalized on Mar 23, 2020 (Note: 1 day before the trial).
The conclusion was that after Crytek found out (starts on p4) - through discovery - that CIG hadn't actually switched (1, 2) to Lumberyard as CIG had claimed, they [Crytek] decided to withdraw the lawsuit until SQ42 (the main target of the lawsuit) was released so that it would be conclusive proof that it in fact use CryEngine and not Lumberyard. 1, 2, 3, 4
The issue there is that CIG was being cagey about when SQ42 would actually release (Note: Beta was scheduled for Q1/2020, but has since been pushed to Q2/2020. But it was totally coming in 2017 though). Hence the reason that Crytek decided to press pause on the lawsuit in order to be able to refile once SQ42 had released (1). CIG obviously didn't want that hanging over their head - especially since it was already proven that they didn't actually switch engines - thus putting SQ42 at huge risk.
So, after CIG tried several times (via legal files) to settle with Crytek (who rebuffed it and opted to wait until discovery was over), this final settlement did go through. And several sources have told me that it was a financial settlement in which CIG paid Crytek to drop the claims and lawsuit once and for all. All this happened less than one month to the March 24, 2020 trial date.
Drayth wrote on May 26, 2020, 00:13:
I don't argue against anyone stating this game's taking too long to come out. I'm ok with the long development time as long as SQ42 gets here in the next year or two and shows the development time made for a great game. They want to go balls to the wall with SC universe, have at it. There's no mandatory subscription, and if the demand's there to continue funding the game with the model they're using, then it is what it is.
Mr. Smart's reality bending crusade is another matter, however.
Kxmode wrote on May 25, 2020, 08:03:
One thing is certain a Star Citizen thread brings out die hard hater Derek Smart and die hard supporter theyarecomingforyou. It's like Pay-Per-View Heavyweight Boxing.![]()
Kxmode wrote on May 22, 2020, 18:10:RedEye9 wrote on May 22, 2020, 17:31:The Half Elf wrote on May 22, 2020, 16:12:https://twitter.com/dsmart
Actually would love to know Derek's thoughts on the current state of the game.
He posts cig/sc stuff here
He's appears to focus his attention and ire on another person. But he did mention it, almost indifferently. "Star Citizen Video Shows First Look at Pyro I," with no snide comments. Maybe he realized in the grand scheme of things constantly going after Star Citizen isn't productive.
Cutter wrote on Mar 20, 2019, 21:09:
Is it really a grant when they have to use Epic's software and platform exclusively?
WaltC wrote on Mar 20, 2019, 18:27:
Give me a list of grant recipients that can be verified, and then I shall believe this...;)
Orogogus wrote on Mar 20, 2019, 03:30:
I can't speak to software, but in manufactured goods, if you don't have feature parity or a pricing edge, you're often not viable. Why would I buy a non-exclusive game from the Epic store? Steam has streaming and broadcasting, global controller rebinding, the mods workshop, gifting, wishlists and sale notifications, tags, gift cards, a shopping cart, DLC, remote access, VR support, family sharing, family view, a music player, the ability to add non-Steam games, and cloud saves. Epic's big customer-facing features are not having forums or reviews. I feel like I'd have to be stupid to buy from them if I have a choice.
eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 19, 2019, 09:21:dsmart wrote on Mar 19, 2019, 08:26:
Bit out of the loop old man?
You didn't prove a single one of your points; let alone disprove any of mine. All you did was post out of context references to...nuthin'.
Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living. If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them
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HorrorScope wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 23:01:Kxmode wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 22:51:
That's why people are angry here. If third-party publishers want to go exclusive on Epic Game Store, that's fine,
No they are pissed for all the reasons in this thread no matter where you go. The having it on Steam and then pulled off, that was just another scoop of rage added.
Kain wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 22:02:
I didn't think Discord really had much of a store anymore. They let you subscribe to "Nitro" to support development and throw in some games if you do so. It's like a poor mans Origin Access. Beyond that they let developers sell directly to consumers if they pay to unlock a merchant account. The scuttlebutt from some devs on reddit was that the company was diluting their resources too much and didn't feel they could compete with the larger players in the industry.
EGS and Steam on the other hand seem like more direct competitors. I just wish EGS would expand its feature set instead of focusing on buying content deals. Price and features are what draws me to platforms.
Kxmode wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 20:42:
But it's not a store. It's a chatting app. It's not the same thing.![]()
Kxmode wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 20:23:
Deep Silver made an obligation to customers that the game would be available for sale on Steam (until it wasn't). Phoenix Point had an obligation to backers to be available on Steam and GOG (now, it's not). That's why people are reasonably angered. If third-party publishers want to go exclusive, then do it from the beginning not after the fact. Nothing angers people more than changing expectations.
Kxmode wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 18:42:
It's an established fact that consoles have exclusives and people expect it when they buy an Xbox, PlayStation, or Nintendo device.
Conversely, PC Gaming has never had exclusives beyond Windows versus Apple.
The only exclusives that exist today are top-tier publisher titles on the publisher's store. That's been around since '00s.
Third-party store exclusives is a NEW thing that Epic has done and is trying to make a thing
Simon Says wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 18:18:
Done reading and while I agree on a lot of the points, I disagree that signing exclusives is a competitive move.
Competition is by definition multiple platforms fighting over the consumer's money. Which leads to better prices and services.
"the effort of two or more parties acting independently to secure the business of a third party by offering the most favorable terms"
I'm surprised you went for the easy and often fallacious tribalism stereotype. Altho it is true for some, it ain't true for all.
Simon Says wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 17:14:dsmart wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 17:05:
I have written extensive threads about this fiasco. My latest was today. Enjoy!
Appreciate your input Derek, but reading stuff on twitter that is 56 messages long just leads to a TL&DR case wherehas I would've gladly read it all if it was the same content in a concise article on 1 page. Sorry mate.
Anyone can resume it for our sanity's sake here please? Thanks.
Kxmode wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 17:10:dsmart wrote on Mar 18, 2019, 17:05:
I have written extensive threads about this fiasco. My latest was today. Enjoy!
Wait a second. We didn't do the chant!![]()
DEREK SMART
DEREK SMART
DEREK SMART
Okay, we're good now.![]()
Prez wrote on Feb 1, 2019, 08:20:Sepharo wrote on Feb 1, 2019, 04:00:Kxmode wrote on Feb 1, 2019, 03:38:jdreyer wrote on Feb 1, 2019, 03:07:RedEye9 wrote on Jan 31, 2019, 12:37:
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Goddammit. How am I supposed to read your forking shirt if it gets removed???
I assume you have watched all of The Good Place. If not, what's wrong with you? .
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I feel like that would be an awesome Blue's News shirt! A navy color shirt with the red *REMOVED*![]()
Haha that's a good idea actually.
Nobody would know what it means, but it's a perfect shirt for this community lol
It would have to have Cutter's avatar pic on the back.