Saw the title and hoped it was a Discworld game.

Took too long. I won't be buying this.

I don't usually go in for MMORPGs, but I definately want in for this beta.

I hope they allow people from other regions into the beta, not just North Americans

Warcraft 3 gets 1.10 before Diablo 2 does... is that patch ever going to come out?

Well considering half the games shown at this E3 are unlikey to be released before then, you could consider this E3 advance information on the next one...

Fuck, the GP32 has been around for years... good luck finding it in your local store though... Lik-Sang sell them though (http://www.lik-sang.com).

More worth it for hardcore gamers and amature game developers than casual gamers, who are better off getting a GBA.

Nevermind, works now. Weird.

That link is broken? I tried it twice with no luck...

Preach it brother!

...or at least thats what I thought it said at first glance

Libbo, I agree with most of what you say, and I do admit that any example I make up will be contrived, but I just don't buy the guns for self defence argument. Not that it's not a valid one to make, I just don't think the defensive ability of a gun outweighs the danger of having one around the home.

Oh yeah, that line about peace and happiness was a throwaway barb, just to see if G would bite. I don't really believe we'll ever get that kind of society. And I'm not a hippy. (Just for reference - I can't stress that enough.)

Mind you, I don't advocate sitting by and doing nothing while peoples lives are at stake (including being severly beaten, raped, etc). But there are other, non lethal methods of defending yourself and others. Pepper spray, self defence classes, martial arts, hell even a mobile phone (ala Buffy 7.1 ;))

And I stick by my statements that having a gun makes you a target. Consider our hypothetical mugging/rape situation. First of all, in a gun plentiful world, the criminal is going to consider the fact that you may have a weapon. Also, he's not going to try and rape your wife while you are in any sort of position to stop him... He'd probably try and kill/knock out/tie up you anyway. The way I see it is, having a gun is going to be helpful in very few situations. Either you are only moderate danger, in which case lethal force is overkill, or you are in so much trouble that having a gun ain't gonna help your survival prospects anyway.

You mention accountability. The idea of everyone being accountable about gun safety is just as laugable as "a peaceful little world" (btw, I object to the term little, it is degrogatory without basis). I'm sure 99% of all gun owners are responsible. It's the 1% that worry me - especially when it's 1% of 100 million people. Talk all you want about safety classes, license requirements, but the fact remains that some people are just slack, forgetfull or stupid, and there will be plenty of opporunity for legal guns to be abused. The way I see it is the smaller the nunmber of guns out there, the less morons with a gun there are (btw, nowhere here do I imply that being a moron is in any way linked with owning a gun).

jawlz brings up the point of guns preventing crime. I would like to see your numbers, but I'll take what you said at face value. What I meant by the "guns are not used for defense" statement was guns are used for defense the same way nuclear weapons are used for defense - if you threaten me, I'll destroy you utterly. Thats fair enough, if you never actually have to drop the bomb/fire the gun.

(As a side note, I suggest reading Orson Scott Card's Ender series, especially Speaker for the Dead/Xenocide, for some interesting discussion about when the use of deadly force is appropriate. You will find parts of it support both sides of this argument)

I might also note that my position is not set in stone. I am willing to change my beliefs on this. But you'll have to make me believe, not attack my position.

George: I had written something here about your last comment, but on reflection your posts are nothing but flamebait. Come back when you have cooled off.

Sorry about the length of this post. It's pretty OT too. If anyone (excluding G) wants to continue this thread, I'd be happy to do it via email. Right now though, its 3.40 am and I am going to bed.

Holy shit. George, are you for real?

That is the craziest argument I've seen in a long time, and that includes people blaming video games for sniper shootings.

Guns are NOT used for defense. Bullet proof vests are used for defense. Guns are used to kill. Besides which, guns make pretty piss poor protection at best. If you are attacked, having a gun makes you a target. Any whackjob worth his salt is gonna make sure anyone else with a gun is not a threat - permanently.

I also object to guns on a moral level. Say you are getting mugged by a criminal with a gun. What do you do, shoot him? Congratulations, you have just killed a human being, albeit a degraded one. However, you just lowered yourself to his level. You're better off giving him your money without putting up a fight. After all, he's not going to make trouble for himself killing you if he doesn't have to. "But doesn't that just encourage him to do it again and again?" Well, that is what the police are for.

By your logic, all kids should bring guns to school. After all, you can't stop them from getting guns, and if one brings a gun to school, you need to have others with guns to take him out if he shoots someone. What a wonderful world that would be to live in.

As for your carmageddon example, it really is quite irrelevant. People can do that now, people can do that in a gunless world. The same can be said of a steak knife. The point is that guns are designed and built for only one reason - death. You can do far more damage with a gun than with any other object (excluding a bomb).

Of course, I don't expect any of these arguments to carry any weight with you - your comparisons of good/pro-gun and evil/anti-gun have the sound of a religous belief to me. And everybody knows you can't argue with fanatics.

So how about you just keep your guns away from me and my children, and I'll keep my dangerous ideas like peace and happiness away from you and yours.

Um, is it just me or is that review about the Epox 8K9A2+ Motherboard? The url and the page content lead me to believe so - the page title is whats screwy (and this link

I have only one major beef with Steam: I better be able to burn the game updates to a cd. I do not want to have to redownload hundreds of megs every time I reinstall Half-Life.

Additionally I want to be able to share the updates with friends on my LAN - if everytime I hold a LAN 4 people have to download 100s of megs just to install something I have already downloaded, I'm going to be pretty fucking pissed off (not too mention my 56K will die of snoo-snoo - and broadband is not an option where I live).

So I don't really care if Steam is the only place I can get patches on the net, so long as once I've got them I can do what I want with them.

Does anyone else get the feeling the sites name will soon be changed to "Mike's Mews"?

Seriously Blue, get Mike onboard, so you can at least stop writing "Thanks Mike Martinez" after every second item