Oh yeah an he conveniently ignored the fact where my otherwise 45 year old friend in the prime of his life ended up bedridden for two plus weeks with pneumonia, and basically SENT HOME from the hospital because his case wasn't severe enough, and there were no beds or doctors available due to....guess what? COVID!!! Jesus....this has really riled me up.

DukeFNukem wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 09:48:

VaranDragon wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 02:57:
Let me share my experience with Covid. It's relatively light compared to what was written here but it is still sobering as to how dangerous it can be.

So I play in a a band. We got together for rehearsal about two and a half weeks ago on a Sunday. We were avoiding playing together up until then as there are no gigs to be had during this time, but on Monday we were due in a recording studio to record a new tune and felt we had to practice it some. We played for about an hour and a half, two tops. All of us were healthy no symptoms. The very next day, early in the morning our singer let us know that he developed flu like symptoms with a body temperature of 38.5. We all went into self-isolation just as a precaution. Anyways to cut a long story short, he managed to infect ALL of us. Yes we all got tested. That's 5 other people that were there (4 others in band, 1 producer who was with us for 15 minutes!) All of us developed relatively mild, flu like symptoms except for our other guitarist, who developed early onset pneumonia had pretty high body temperature for two weeks before finally pulling through. He is still bedridden. They wouldn't admit him to a hospital due to being swamped by more serious cases of Covid 19. Gave him some antibiotics and sent him home.

100% infection rate from our singer who we later found out attended a wedding three days prior and didn't let us know. (Where he probably got infected).

Im not saying everyone is that infectious, but apparently there are people out there who are.

So yeah. There it is. Stay safe. For most this is a trivial disease, but why take the chance you end up being one of the few for whom it isn't. Or even worse, infect someone else who ends up having serious complications.

A body temperature of 38.5? Was he dead? You mean 98.5, okay.

Stay safe how? By not living your life at all? By letting fear of a germ rule every aspect of your very existence? Why take the chance? Because life is a chance. Because everybody dies. There are now over 12 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the United States. If you know anything about exponents, you know that there is nothing you can do to prevent the spread now short of immersing yourself in a black pod filled with red jello and a breathing tube and remaining in suspended animation for the rest of your life.

People die all the time on airplanes, motorcycles, trains, skydiving, rock climbing. Why take the chance? Sure the statistics of people who die flying on planes is small, but still, why take the chance? Anybody got any stories of somebody they know who died on a plane or motorcycle so that we can be safe by not doing those things any more? *face palm*

Statistics tell us what we need to fear. And statistics show us that COVID-19 is really nothing to be fearful of. The less exposure you have to viruses the more weak your immune system becomes. You're not going to prevent anything from spreading at this point by looking like a mental patient because you're wearing a mask, when driving down the highway in your car with a mask on.

With a 99% + recovery rate for most people and a 95%+ recovery rate for elderly people it's insane that were still talking about this bitch called COVID-19 as though it were the most ferocious killing virus on the planet. It's not. The only pandemic going on right now is one of brainwashing people into thinking that the only solution to a virus that has one of the lowest case fatality rates in history is a rushed vaccine. Sorry, vaccines aren't magic bullets for old people. Everybody dies.

When they can produce a vaccine that gives me eternal life I might be interested in that one. Until then, it's all snakeoil sales gimmicks. It's all about the Benjamins!

If this is your takeaway from what I wrote then I feel very sorry for you my friend. You seem to suffer from a very specific set of cognitive dissonance. The problem with Covid is that it is EXTREMELY transmissive, but it doesn't have to be if all you do is take a little care. Do you really want to be responsible for someone's death? Seriously do you? Or let me put it another way. You end up in a hospital due to a freeclimbing, motorcycling, biking, skydiving, or whatever-the-fuck accident and you end up getting terrible care because ALL THE GODDAMN DOCTORS ARE IN THE COVID WARDS!

Now do you get it???

Mr. Tact wrote on Dec 3, 2020, 09:06:
I'd have to say that's very irresponsible of your singer. If I were you, I'd be extremely unhappy with him...

Oh yeah, you bet he's gonna be eating crud for a while. He's lucky that we are all great friends, and that he is such a great singer.

jdreyer wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 14:31:

VaranDragon wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 11:20:
Im sorry theglaze but 7 out of the 13 games tested were using the Unreal engine, where obviously Nvidia has the upper hand. So it's more like 6 games tested. In DCS (which is what im interested in for VR mostly) initial reports put the 6800XT ahead of the 3080 in frame-time analysis.

Since RDNA2 is what is powering the next gen consoles, I wouldn't bet against performance swining back into AMD's favor in newly developed games. Where AMD has so far failed to impress is ray tracing, so there is that to consider too.

Why is a game invalidated if it uses UE? UE games are a huge segment of AAA games.

Not invalidated. Just skewed results in testing. A more scientific approach would be to test many different game engines, not just many games using one or two engines.

Let me share my experience with Covid. It's relatively light compared to what was written here but it is still sobering as to how dangerous it can be.

So I play in a a band. We got together for rehearsal about two and a half weeks ago on a Sunday. We were avoiding playing together up until then as there are no gigs to be had during this time, but on Monday we were due in a recording studio to record a new tune and felt we had to practice it some. We played for about an hour and a half, two tops. All of us were healthy no symptoms. The very next day, early in the morning our singer let us know that he developed flu like symptoms with a body temperature of 38.5. We all went into self-isolation just as a precaution. Anyways to cut a long story short, he managed to infect ALL of us. Yes we all got tested. That's 5 other people that were there (4 others in band, 1 producer who was with us for 15 minutes!) All of us developed relatively mild, flu like symptoms except for our other guitarist, who developed early onset pneumonia had pretty high body temperature for two weeks before finally pulling through. He is still bedridden. They wouldn't admit him to a hospital due to being swamped by more serious cases of Covid 19. Gave him some antibiotics and sent him home.

100% infection rate from our singer who we later found out attended a wedding three days prior and didn't let us know. (Where he probably got infected).

Im not saying everyone is that infectious, but apparently there are people out there who are.

So yeah. There it is. Stay safe. For most this is a trivial disease, but why take the chance you end up being one of the few for whom it isn't. Or even worse, infect someone else who ends up having serious complications.

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It's still extremely impressive considering it was made by one guy. Especially the graphics. Man I wish DCS had these kinds of (world and weather) graphics. I love flight sims, but I probably couldnt get into this because it's not really a sim at all. More of an action game. However I am so frustrated with how slow progress is on the DCS engine. Apart from the cockpits (which are amazing) DCS really struggles to bring it's world to life. It's engine is extremely dated and burdened by millions of lines of legacy code. Which means it runs like shit too. *Sigh*

Im sorry theglaze but 7 out of the 13 games tested were using the Unreal engine, where obviously Nvidia has the upper hand. So it's more like 6 games tested. In DCS (which is what im interested in for VR mostly) initial reports put the 6800XT ahead of the 3080 in frame-time analysis.

Since RDNA2 is what is powering the next gen consoles, I wouldn't bet against performance swining back into AMD's favor in newly developed games. Where AMD has so far failed to impress is ray tracing, so there is that to consider too.

Acleacius wrote on Dec 1, 2020, 20:05:
As everyone has mentioned, it's more powerful than last generations top card 2080ti, iirc. At $400 it's also half the price of the 2080ti at release.
I don't see how anyone could consider this less valuable than $300, so the debate is over $100. It's a card in hand atm, if you've got access to buy these
mysterious and unknown 3090 and 3080 cards please share their vendor link. Not to mention buying this now, gives something until prices and supplies settle
down on the top tier cards 2021. Nor do I want to wait for ATI to develop and add in their own RT which could take another 6 months.
So it looks like all that's worth $50 buck, if not the $100 at least imo.

Quick correction. It performs at the level or is slightly more powerful than the 2080S, not the 2080Ti. You might think Im nitpicking but there is a significant difference there.

MeanJim wrote on Dec 2, 2020, 03:21:
I'm pretty desperate for a GPU upgrade since I'm still on a GTX 970. When I built my system, the 10XX GPUs had just come out. I tend to upgrade every other GPU generation, so I decided to see how my system performed with the old 970 first. It ran everything I had maxed out at 1080p 60fps, so I didn't see the need to upgrade. Then I got hit with a bit of bad timing when my monitor crapped out. Rather than just replace it with another 1080p 60Hz display, I decided to splurge on a 1440p 144Hz display, and the 970 just can't cut. I decided not to waste money on a 1080 since the the 20 series releasing soon, so I waited. I didn't pull the trigger on a 20XX GPU because the price didn't seem worth it compared to their performance over a 1080, and pretty much everyone was saying to wait for the next gen.

Ive been going through my back log and playing low requirement games anyway, but I've got some games I want to replay that the 970 couldn't handle without lowering the quality, and Cyberpunk 2077 is coming out soon, which I've already pre-ordered a boxed copy.

If these don't sell out immediately, and I can get one, I can't decided if I should get one or wait and hope I can get a 3080. Spending $400 for something I would have spent $700 on last year isn't bad, and it could be enough to hold me over until the 40 series and/or my next full system build. Then again, spending a bit extra if the 3080's come back in stock, seems to be the better long term investment. So it comes don't to waiting and taking a gamble that the 3080s ever become available again, or get a 3060ti tomorrow (that is if they're not sniped immediately).

It all depends on what you want performance wise from the card. While the 3060ti is probably great for 1440p for all current games, (especially if youre coming from a 970) it will probably struggle in future games at that resolution if you're interested in future proofing for raytracing.

The way I kind of look at it is this:

If all you're interested in is 1080p for the forseeable future then the 3060ti is more than good enough.
If you want to future proof for 1440p then the 3070 or the 6800 is what you should be aiming for.
4k or VR, wait for the unicorn cards to become available i.e. the 6800XT or the RTX3080.

While Cutter is completely off the mark with the reason WHY the company was valued and sold so highly, the sheer $$$ dollar value is IMO still shockingly high for a different reason. It's telling about the world and culture in which we live that corporations have this kind of financial power, that they have actually worked out that shelling out 30 billion dollars for a company (and a piece of software and their users) will in the long run bring a return to their investment. That they actually have this kind of wealth (or that they can raise it in some other way) in the first place is shocking in this own right.

While I really wanted to play the original RDR on the PC, for some reason when RDR2 shipped I never got the itch to buy it. Something about the setting, story and characters and gameplay seemed off-putting from what I could read about it or watch in online reviews and gameplay videos. I just wanna play as Clint Eastwood, or Lee Van Cleef, and the main character in RDR2 is like this hobo who fell on hard times. He doesn't even wear a proper cowboy hat and likes to talk about his feelings...sheesh.

So an unpolished, unfinished buggy mess? Yeah, sounds like a typical Romero game to me....

Pepe wrote on Nov 30, 2020, 20:01:
Would have risen more if you could actually buy something.

Yeah, this pretty much.

El Pit wrote on Nov 29, 2020, 12:18:
AMD assures... that RX 6000 will not be a paper start (and makes fun of Nvidia)
Just a few weeks ago ^THIS^ happened.

Yeah, this was definitely the worst launch for Nvidia and AMD in recent memory. They really screwed the pooch with this paper launch.

HorrorScope wrote on Nov 29, 2020, 17:37:
Got my CP2077 before they run out. Can't wait to climb up the PvP boards from the start.

The sarcasm is strong in that one

I agree with most that has been said here. With that said I'm probably going to buy a 3080 or a 6800XT because of VR. VR and 4K are the only possible reason why you would even need one of these new monsters. This will be the first top tier video game card I have bought in ages.

Please don't buy Mechwarrior 5 Mercs. It is absolute Shite. I am one of the biggest Mechwarrior fans in existence. Mechwarrior 2 was my Bible. Mechwarrior 2: Mercs, my Catechism.

I played all of them, religiously.

I bought into Mechwarrior 5 at release. The first two missions are actually quite good. The mechbay is quite good. The rest of the game is some of the most terrible, generic crap gameplay I have ever seen. Once you've seen the 5 different mission types you have seen them all. The generic missions for the most part are terrible. Even the "story" missions are the same generic bullshit as the other generic missions (and by generic they really are generic). Each mission (no matter the type) is basically a struggle to survive against waves and waves of teleporting enemies (and they literally pop in existence, sometimes right in front of you) while taking as little damage as possible. No mission design, horrible AI, useless systems, no real sense of dueling it out or accomplishing anything (other than surviving) mission, after mission, after mission.
These guys couldn't build a single-player campaign if their life depended on it. So I have little faith that this DLC is not just more of the same cashgrab.

These guys have literally destroyed the Mechwarrior IP.

Would really like to see raytracing tested with DLSS OFF! Seems like it's the default setting on Nvidia cards and AMD lacks this supersampling RT "feature" so it's kind of unfair on Team red. Can anyone link to a review where the Nvidia cards had DLSS off and then were tested against team red?

Maradona snorted all the lines. Not even Chuck Norris accomplished that particular feat. RIP Diego.