Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 18:19:
No sane person would ever claim that those 120+ posts over 5 years aren't defending SC.
Just go read a few.
edit: You think kxmode is derek smart lol
Sepharo wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:06:NasWulf wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:02:
Yep, go ahead smart guy. Get back to me when you find your magic bullet.
A much more difficult challenge would be finding a post that's not defending this game.
Edit: It took a bit, but I did manage to find one. Here's a post that seemingly has nothing to do with SC:
A response to someone saying WoW ruined MMOs
You should hang onto this for the next time someone calls you a single issue poster. This is the proof that that's not true!
With this evidence, only 122 of your 123 posts are defending SC, not all of them.
RedEye9 wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 16:14:I was done until sherlock showed up to un-mask the man behind the current. He sooo prove everything with that detective work....
Beamer wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 12:10:
I didn't say you had spent a dime.
But you have a very closed mind about the game. You may think you're being neutral, but you're being kind of a fanatic. You're a defense force for something that isn't owed, and doesn't deserve. Let people think the development is a joke. If the game comes out and is incredible, they look like fools. If it never comes out, or if it sucks, you look like a fool.
No one wants to look the way Derek Smart has in all of this.
Beamer wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:32:Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:15:
Hey, don't leave me out. I love the idea of Star Citizen. I hope it becomes everything CR says it will and more. I like space exploration games. I have hundreds of hours in both Elite Dangerous and NMS. But I am a realist. And the reality is SC is nothing but a promising alpha at this point. When the developers stamp the "v 1.0" on it, I'll evaluate it as rationally as I possibly can.
The WoW argument is just what killed me. WoW was a reviewable release, with a start, middle, and end.
Beamer wrote on Jan 14, 2020, 11:05:
You're lashing out because people think it's hysterical that you endlessly defend a game that there's no point to you defending. You aren't impacting the development. You aren't being given a free ship. You've tied your emotions and identity up into it for some reason, and are taking a hard stand and making really poorly thought out arguments to defend it.
jdreyer wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 17:17:NasWulf wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 12:47:
It's just that your definition of "not finished" is one that absolutely no one else shares: no one here, no one in the industry, no one in the press. That should give you pause.
Let's entertain your definition for the sake of argument. Even if WoW continued to add content, continuously improving the game, it's a different situation than SC. WoW finished the first floor of the building before starting on the second floor. You could live comfortably on the first floor with few issues while they worked on the second. SC is building all 10 stories at once. Sure, you can visit the first floor, but the windows aren't on, there's no plumbing, and the electricity goes off and on randomly.
Drayth wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 11:52:
SC is un-rleased, un-launched, un-ready for prime time.
Lets put it this way, on launch day it was perfectly fair to write a formal game review for WoW.
Would you say it's time for PC Gamer to go and give SC a review rating? If you counter this I'm probably not going to bother arguing back. You can't compare the two in terms of state of release.
jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2020, 14:56:
"I reject reality and substitute my own." Blizzard considered WoW finished in 2004. The players considered it finished. Only you don't consider it finished.
jdreyer wrote on Jan 13, 2020, 11:35:
Right, and I'm saying it will be in this buggy unfinished constantly changing alpha state for so long, that by the time they settle on a scope just for the base game, I'll be dead. At least I'll be able to play SQ42 in a few years, because the scope is well defined on that one, so there's light at the end of the tunnel.
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 11, 2020, 11:45:
Wow. You are deep under the spell, aren't you? Even if CR could teach me how to do that, I'm not sure I'd want to know how...
Drayth wrote on Jan 11, 2020, 13:14:
That's not a valid comparison at all. SC is no where near a product ready for retail. Yeah development is different with SC in that they push out semi-working builds every 3 months instead of tackling the majority of bugs in beta, so it's a little more of a playable alpha than most games would be (it's how they keep things funded without going to a publisher).. but yeah. no.
jdreyer wrote on Jan 12, 2020, 04:06:
"Finished" means that they've developed, tested, and deployed a defined scope. WoW launched with a defined scope, and they added to it later. Would that this game do that. E:D did that, and you have a playable game. Does it do everything? Nope, but you can play it, and it's fun, and they keep adding to it.
Mr. Tact wrote on Jan 11, 2020, 07:41:NasWulf wrote on Jan 11, 2020, 06:29:Not a valid comparison, yet. Since launch WoW was a working game with plenty of content.
Well, you can look at it this way...WoW has been "in on-going development" for 15+ years, is it or will it ever be finished?
jdreyer wrote on Jan 9, 2020, 22:38:
Yup, it's coming along. The question isn't "Are they making the game?" because they obviously are. The question is, "Will they finish the game before I die?" because that's a much more open question.
Dacron wrote on Jan 7, 2020, 13:49:
But yes, that is exactly what I am claiming. I mean, clearly you've been coming here for decades, but were only drawn into conversation on SC, as opposed to getting mad and defending this when you found it (is a /s needed ?). And even if it isn't true (I doubt that.) nothing changes your (and others...) rabid, insult laden desire to "beat" the SC deniers and detractors.
It's cult like. Hell it brought you in to fight here after "`15 years". There's a reason why it's pointed out as such. Hell Blue made a comment earlier about these account specifically... I can't recall that EVER being an issue here before.
Dacron wrote on Jan 7, 2020, 12:34:
Oh, and those *removed* posts ? Were from going "Awww muffin you sound upset" over and over and Naswulf reporting them (again, whilst calling others names.... it's like you can't read a post). I'd GLADLY do it again. He's here for one reason and attacks regularly - the difference is most of us don't report stuff that could be seen as hurting feelings.