RedEye9 wrote on Aug 23, 2021, 17:03:
No one plays sp competitively.
Apples and Oranges
SP was disliked so much that there were two official expansion packs and an unofficial third expansion pack.
roguebanshee wrote on Aug 23, 2021, 10:07:
who is playing single player in Quake?
Every single sane person on this planet.
Yep
Yes , but again Quake is not known for its SP campaigns, the expansions didn't sell well, and again Quake 2 wasn't known for its SP, it was known for its MP MODs/ CFT / Sklins. Quake 3 was the pentacle of arena shooters and that is shown by the multitude of copycat arena shooters that came after it (Unreal Tournament, Sin) and even to this day games like Toxikk and Slipgate. Hell, even Unreal tried to build upon Quake, Quake 2, and Quake 3 Arena.... Quake 4, which was SP centric, was almost the death of the Quake franchise, its MP was lackluster and therefore the competitive scene was almost non-existent. Those that played Quake for SP were not the majority of the player base who played Quake World / Quake MP at LAN parties and tournaments. You did not go to LAN parties / Tournaments to play Quake SP coop. And when you did play at LAN parties and the server rotation hit a map from the expansions, 2/3rds of the players would drop because they didn't have the map paks.
It's also the reason why id focused more on SP for DOOM than MP. DOOM was your SP fix while Quake was for your MP / LAN / Tournament fans. You didn't see Thresh winning a Car for DOOM MP.
You don't go see Kevin Heart for his Oscar-winning performance for the best drama to walk out crying from the tear-jerking ending, you go see him to walk out crying from laughing your ass off. You don play Quake for its lackluster quick-to-forget SP campaign, you play for the heart-pounding MP frag fest.
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 23, 2021, 17:42:
Carmack thought everyone had a T1
, just one of the reasons dialup suxored.
That's why Quake World was so popular for the Dial Up scene.
This comment was edited on Aug 24, 2021, 08:39.