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Kxmode wrote on Sep 24, 2019, 05:01:Not one person with a brain would say the Epic store doesn't have problems. legitimate criticism is perfectly fine. Blind Hatred isn't, and that's what's getting on people's nerves. People frothing in the mouth at just the thought of epic and then spreading their insanity on the internet. Also, a bad comparison Star Citizen will never get finished. Compare Epic store's first year to Steam or any other gaming storefront's first year and you would realize it has the same growing pains. In time the problems will get sorted out.Steele Johnson wrote on Sep 24, 2019, 01:25:
I guess that blew the wind out of the anti-EGS brigade. And it only took one game lmao
Kind of like how the Star Citizen whales make a ton of noise about the game when new trailers debut, amirite?
Yes, I am comparing EGS defenders to die-hard Star Citizen backers. Almost verbatim the same cadence of ad hominem attacks because the store itself, much like Star Citizen, is indefensible against legitimate criticisms.
Citizen P wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 17:49:SabreT wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 17:24:ExGemini wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 16:51:SabreT wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 10:46:Please shit in your hands and slap yourself.
glad to see the anti-epic store cult boycott went well. lol
That’s oddly specific… Is that the circle jerk ritual you guys do before climbing on the hate train ?
Which train is that? the irrational hatred for Steam train? The delighting in frustratingly empty friends-list in a game built for co-op train? Or the Fortnite money train buying exclusivity in lieu of having a competing platform train?
Please be specific.
Jeezuz didn't realize you have a station full of them. Tell you what you can choose which one you want to get on today and then we can discuss that.
I’ll quickly give my opinion on your hate train station.
1. Selective memory in regard to how bad steam was in its beginning years. It’s a great platform now.
2. Sorry can’t help you get friends, maybe be less hateful.
3. Welcome to the real world. yeah Exclusivity, It’s a shame you can’t install both stores on your pc…
This comment was edited on Sep 23, 2019, 18:22.
ExGemini wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 16:51:SabreT wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 10:46:Please shit in your hands and slap yourself.
glad to see the anti-epic store cult boycott went well. lol
That’s oddly specific… Is that the circle jerk ritual you guys do before climbing on the hate train ?
jacobvandy wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 11:37:Grasping at straws… How do you know they set the record for EGS pre-orders. 2K Games told us. WOW, and they did that without giving us exact numbers and not possibly overstepping on other developer’s private info. Who knew it was possible to do it this way?SabreT wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 11:26:jacobvandy wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 11:13:
They didn't sell more than Metro, or whatever has the most sales on EGS so far. If they did, they'd be touting that instead of presales.
Not sure 2k would have different developer's precise sale numbers, also the game has only been out for 10 days... Anything else you want to make up to spread your hate ?
How would they know they set the record for EGS pre-orders? Epic told them...
Also last time I checked you cant give monthly sale numbers if a month haven’t passed yet…
Acleacius wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 11:30:
They really go out of their way to keep from giving an exact PC statement and try to tie it to overall record statements.
Convoluted, that's a good word.
Just imagine how much stronger the PC sales would be, if it wasn't an exclusive on the weakest store platform, in the world.
Let me guess you were still in diapers when Steam came out. The majority of gamers aren't petty. If you want to play a game you don't give a hoot where you get it. If the world worked like you think it apparently does steam would not have existed now.
jacobvandy wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 11:13:
They didn't sell more than Metro, or whatever has the most sales on EGS so far. If they did, they'd be touting that instead of presales.
Not sure 2k would have different developer's precise sale numbers, also the game has only been out for 10 days... Anything else you want to make up to spread your hate ?
Darks wrote on Sep 23, 2019, 10:55:
I want to know what the break down is of sale per platform. Guarantee you it wasn't on PC where those sales came from.
"PC sales of the title through the Epic Games Store have been incredibly strong." And looking at my friend list that's linked to steam that also seems to be the case.
glad to see the anti-epic store cult boycott went well. lol
Epic was a multi-billion dollar company long before Fortnite. They are a graphic engine company that makes games to promote their engines, they have been doing that for decades.
[url=]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games[/url]
[url=]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games[/url]
licensedsaucer9 wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 10:50:SabreT wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 10:45:
Wish all the uniformed parrots thinking that Fortnite is Epic's main source of revenue would just shut up. Do a bit of research yourself ffs.
I am aware that Epic have other revenue streams, but it is news to me that Fortnite is not the main one. Do you have any more information? I found this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gaming/news/fortnite-earned-annual-revenue-game-history-2018/ but it is not current.
www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/the-reason-epic-landed-a-15-billion-valuation-is-not-fortnite-success.html
Icewind wrote on Sep 21, 2019, 03:14:
When Fortnite ends up like all the other competitive online shooters "AKA: Flavors of the moment" (Action quake, TF2, Overwatch, etc) they won't be able to do this anymore.
Works good for the devs, though. They get paid to subject Epic's user base to what amounts to an early access game and get to test patches so that the official release on Steam/GOG a year later comes pre-tested.
Can't wait for Metro Exodus this upcoming February.
Wish all the uniformed parrots thinking that Fortnite is Epic's main source of revenue would just shut up. Do a bit of research yourself ffs.
HorrorScope wrote on Sep 14, 2019, 20:41:
Borderlands 3 spent good money on getting a ton of people streaming I see.
Realy I didn't see more than a hand full of streamers with the Sponsored tag. Most just got the early access key's that any other modern game devs give to streamers. Could it be that it's just a fun game... HEAVENS NO!!!
What your describing sounds amazing, guess you should have read a review or the game description before you bought it blindly.
RedEye9 wrote on Aug 24, 2019, 22:12:Burrito of Peace wrote on Aug 24, 2019, 20:29:heretic
Do I get to play Cyberpunk 2077? Yes? No fucks given about what storefront it comes through.
Yeah seems some people play games just to have fun. crazy right? Also, the people complaining about having multiple storefronts for their games. Do you not use the internet or leave your houses? What strange universe do you live in where everything is in one spot? How lazy/spoilt have you ppl become?
Red886 wrote on Aug 6, 2019, 07:25:
for those complaining that complainers are complaining too loudly:
corp head honchos say if consumers don't complain , then they must agree with it
Yes, that must be it. Or... people are growing tired of the hate train trend. Echo chambers full of people circle jerking the latest "in" thing to hate.
Titus wrote on Aug 6, 2019, 06:54:
What is your actual point ?
You said this "If Epic wanted to be honest about being pro developer in any form, they should just start to be first party publisher."
They have been making games and game engines for decades. Was just pointing out your lack of knowledge on the subject.
Titus wrote on Aug 6, 2019, 07:03:
Claiming a vocal minority without numbers is useless, as is claiming people to be guilty without proof.
Just look at Epic's financials and stock price if you want numbers.
Titus wrote on Aug 6, 2019, 06:54:
What idiot preorders anyway ?.
Whoosh
Titus wrote on Aug 6, 2019, 06:44:
I've seen no proof of actual threats other than those devs claims. Seeing the way they already behaved on their blog, reddit and discord, I have zero confidence in them not lying.
Come on now, receiving threats in the gaming industry is not new. Do you honestly think with all the hate shown from this vocal minority they haven't received any threats?
Titus wrote on Aug 6, 2019, 03:51:
If Epic wanted to be honest about being pro developer in any form, they should just start to be first party publisher.
Now they cherrypick products from developers letting them carry the risk until their product shows potential profit, let them carry the burden of going exclusive and breaking their crowdfunding promises, all for a measly minimal guaranteed sales. They're exploiting indie game devs big time this way.
If Epic had to front the cost of financing devs like other publishers do, carrying most of the risks from the start, they could not even afford a tenth of their current exclusive output. They're parasites plain and simple.
How about you put your money where your mouth is, stop buying any game that uses the Unreal Engine and delete any of the 238 games that uses it currently if you already own it. Also cancel you preorders of Final Fantasy VII Remake, Borderlands 3, Psychonauts 2, MechWarrior 5 to name a few.
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