RogueSix wrote on Mar 11, 2025, 18:46:
Slick wrote on Mar 11, 2025, 18:08:
Tony F. wrote on Mar 11, 2025, 16:04:
Wow, so what do you really think
Seems a little overly harsh, just saying, but that's just my opinion.
Of course, that's no implication you're not completely entitled to voicing your own view being the rascally Rogue that you are.
This is the same ol song from the 7950x3d. Until they add 3D V-cache on both dies, you're at the mercy of Windows as to weather it detects it properly or not. That being said, AMD is not the only one to blame here. Intel has equally banked on strange asymmetrical core layouts (P and E cores) which are always at the mercy of software understanding what to do with them.
Wrong. Say about Intel what you will and, yes, their CPUs are mostly complete fucking garbage (for other reasons than discussed here) these days BUT Intel have introduced a hardware scheduler (Thread Director) ages ago. The thread director partially decides on its own, and partially in conjunction with the Windows 11 software scheduler (close collaboration between INTC and MSFT on that end), which cores to use and it works almost flawlessly.
Yes, there is supposedly the occasional outlier and the rare hiccup but it is a far cry from the AMD shitshow where you have to make sure that GameBar is running and you have to keep your chipset drivers up to date at all times and then still monitor what is going on to be 100% sure that the cores are doing what they are supposed to do.
I have had a degenerating piece of shit 13900K for ~24 months and, while it was indeed a degenerating piece of shit, I never experienced a single issue with scheduling. Ever. That part just always worked perfectly thanks to Thread Director + the Win 11 scheduler (Win 10 might be a different story but if anyone still uses a vintage OS then that is their problem).
This is one thing that AMD should have copied ages ago. They should have long since introduced a hardware scheduler on their CPUs. Instead, they chose to make things even worse as, contrary to 7900X/7950X, even the non-X3D parts, i.e. 9900X/9950X, require the lame-ass GameBar to function correctly nowadays. Pathetic.
Riiiight. the best CPU performance by far is a "shitshow" because you have to install a driver. Because people who buy top of the line gaming CPUs don't know nothin about installing a drive right?
If you use the Xbox game app on your PC its automatically installed anyway. also they are releasing new motherboard drivers that remove the need for the xbox utility anyway.
REGARDLESS....
I have a 7950X3D and it took me all of a few minutes to download and install the xbox game bar 2 years ago and i have not had to think about it since then.
The idea that installing the xbox game bar or any other utility to improve CPU performance is an issue when nearly all of the PC gamers are already running Riva tuner, fraps, and updating GPU drivers every month already is RIDICULOUS.