Cutter wrote on Aug 28, 2024, 20:09:
opie wrote on Aug 28, 2024, 19:38:
someone explain to me how my plastic straw in Nebraska ends up in the ocean? pro tip: it doesn't. no North American source is in the top 10 (because all I can find is the top 10) sources of ocean plastic. more bullshit...i guess paid for the paper industry? but, fuck trees right? so sick of this made up crisis all of the time. i don't care about your flu viruses, your environmental virtue signaling or your roundabouts. leave me alone.
Uh, you know a lot of your garbage and recyclables are shipped - via ocean - to third world countries. So yeah, your plastic straw does end up in the ocean. And if you really need a straw that goddamned badly buy a stainless steel one that lasts a lifetime - no paper or plastic required. Oh, but that's just too much goddamned effort to make, isn't it? Having to put a straw into and taken out of a dishwasher once in a while? Christ, it's like the labors of Hercules, isn't it?
Did you know, in Seattle, where recycling is mandatory, only 1 of the 3 or 4 trash companies actually recycle? others just put it in the landfill per an in person meeting in King County between recyclers and government officials (wife was there and she was pissed as she supports recycling). it is a failed experiment. feel free to research it, but all you will find are good numbers for "Access" to recycling, never actual recycling numbers, never by company, never by amount that could be, but isn't. you'd be amazed how easy it is in gov to find something to make it sound like something is being done when nothing really is.
eg. we increased the number of people with access to recycling from 8% 30 years ago, to 70% today! all it took was 95 billion dollars and a law making it mandatory.
people are sheep and never read past the headlines.