fujiJuice wrote on May 31, 2023, 17:52:Specificity matters and I didn't look up the name of the engagement like I should have entirely my bad. I should have looked it up and said Battle of Mogadishu which is what I actually meant. The game you linked is a more than just that singular battle it's part of the narrative not the entire thing.thestryker wrote on May 31, 2023, 14:33:
It would be like playing a game set in 1993 Mogadishu.
Delta Force: Black Hawk Down
I feel like I own this somewhere.
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 31, 2023, 15:14:They absolutely can be, but this is more like if someone made a game about Khe Sanh rather than one set in/about the Vietnam War. When you limit yourself to a specific battle, especially in this case, you're limiting the scope of what you can do. The war in Iraq was far bigger than anything that happened in Fallujah which was ugly but cut and dried. Fallujah was all about kicking in doors and hoping to not die which led to increasing civilian deaths as it went on. This is all the game appears to be which I don't find to be a worthwhile or compelling use of history.thestryker wrote on May 31, 2023, 14:33:
I've never understood why anyone would want to make a game about Fallujah. It would be like playing a game set in 1993 Mogadishu.
Yet we have had games, too few, about Vietnam. No one celebrates Vietnam because it is the largest military clusterfuck in US history but it is an important part of US history nonetheless. The vets of it are dying off now and those voices, at least those willing to speak, who can teach us about it beyond the approved, sanitized curriculum and propaganda are disappearing.
I think games can be a powerful teaching and informing medium and to shy away from hard or controversial topics is a disservice to the medium. I don't think most people are going to celebrate Fallujah. But knowing the truth about it, experiencing it through simulation, and better understanding it? Hopefully that in part informs several generations so that we don't repeat the mistakes of Vietnam and Afghanistan in the future.
Prez wrote on May 31, 2023, 14:44:At no point did I say they shouldn't be allowed to make the game nor that it should be off limits. Perhaps try actually reading before getting on your soapbox. I said it doesn't make sense to make a game about the battle and they'd be better served by widening the focus. This does not preclude them from including the battle. I don't see what's compelling about making a game set in the confines of a singular atrocious urban battle.thestryker wrote on May 31, 2023, 14:33:
I've never understood why anyone would want to make a game about Fallujah. It would be like playing a game set in 1993 Mogadishu. Terrible combat which didn't need to happen caused by inept leadership that damaged both sides badly along with civilians. Something with a wider focus could work just as effectively from a gameplay and storytelling perspective.
With Spec Ops The Line they were able to tell a powerful story without dragging real history into it. I think it's unfortunate that we haven't seen more combat games that tell stories focused on people. A replayability focused procedurally generated coop shooter is not what comes to mind when I think of storytelling though.
I will never, ever subscribe to this logic. A battle such as this would not be off limits for a book or a movie. But someone wants to make a game about it, them all of a sudden it's off limits. People largely treat movies and books as entertainment , yet allow for thoughtful and nuanced explorations of actual tragic events constantly. It's almost like people accept that those mediums can handle the subject with enough care and dedication to an honest portrayal that it isn't an immediate no-go. Yet we'll lose our shit about games because we have a singular, wrongheaded view that we have to absolutely enjoy and consume without any thought or maturity.
That's not to say that it looks like they are being mature and careful with the portrayal of this particular game, but to declare it off limits for a game is narrow-minded and wrong-headed in my opinion. How many movies were made about 9/11?
Prez wrote on May 30, 2023, 04:04:Ahhhhhh more whataboutism, but at least this was less toxic than the last. It's no secret than women and known minorities take way more abuse than anyone else when it comes to gaming. The whole point was to highlight how bad it is for one of those groups.
I have the deepest sympathy for anyone with suicidal thoughts. It is a level of desperation and despair that I wouldn't wish on anyone. I'm pretty sure, however, just as many gaming dudes are inclined to think that way. Mental health is a much larger problem than this very narrowly focused study indicates. I'd be willing to bet many of the perpetrators of such abuse have severe mental health issues themselves. This study is way too narrow. The problem is far larger.
Beamer wrote on May 24, 2023, 14:10:I gotta agree this seems pretty middling. Based on MSRP from last generation sure it's not that bad, but based in current pricing it really is nothing special. I think it feels less bad simply because it's $270 for a 1080p card rather than $400.RedEye9 wrote on May 24, 2023, 13:30:
Making that 4060ti look worse and worse.
Is it?
They both seem pretty bad.
The 4060ti is 29% faster and 32% more expensive. That's right on the line with this. If you want to do any 1440p (which I do not), that's much better. Neither is really much of a jump over last gen, neither is much more of a value than the other. Even GN isn't saying to buy this before seeing what the 4060 is.
I still think I'd heavily consider the Arc 7700 if I was in the market, but I will also admit that's the choice for the stupid adventurous man (or adventurous stupid man.)
RogueSix wrote on May 23, 2023, 18:52:I'm not sure why you felt the need to rant, because I literally said I don't think nvidia cares about the console market. I was just pointing out that being in the switch doesn't mean anything to them. Whereas being in the console market has turned out to be very beneficial to AMD.thestryker wrote on May 23, 2023, 18:04:
It's disingenuous to compare a chip from 2015 which nv inevitably makes tiny margins on to those found in PS/XB.
That being said I don't really think they care about the console market given the limited margin possibilities due to longevity of generations.
Welp, you nVidia haters need to make up your minds: Is nVidia pissed that they did not get the tiny margin PS5/Xbox business or are they greedy margin-above-all assholes?
I'm also not sure if it's "disingenuous" to state (inconvenient for you haters) facts. Do I have to apologize because someone claimed that all console business belongs to AMD when that is simply factually wrong?
Besides, I'm very sure that nVidia is many things but not pissed. TSMC has limited capacities and capabilities which were even more limited during the whole mining and CoVid era. nVidia is a huge customer of TSMC but I would bet real money that Huang went "striiiiiiiiiiiiiike" like Al Bundy multiple times over the past few years when he was able to allocate ALL of nVidia's capacity down to the last wafer to high margin areas like datacenter, AI and mining without being hampered by pesky low margin console deals with obligatory delivery contracts.
Before someone points out a contradiction because of the Switch and Tegra stuff: The Tegra X1 is manufactured on 16nm to 20nm nodes. It does not cut into nVidia's high margin capacities on leading edge nodes at all. It's a separate thing entirely.
I'm also very sure that between 2019 and 2022 AMD wasn't happy about their console contracts either because they could have built and sold so many more Ryzens and Epycs and GPUs instead of being forced to allocate precious wafer resources for low margin console crap SoCs while consoles sold (or got built, respectively) slower than molasses because of other external factors like CoVid lockdowns, missing substrates, supply chain shortages, yada, yada... it was a burden and a liability for AMD and nothing else.
Things are a little different now that the consumer CPU business has collapsed massively. AMD's client CPU (Ryzen) business has nosedived by 65% YoY while gaming (consoles) kinda saved their asses. Well, AMD still made a loss in Q1/2023 but without consoles the loss would have been even higher.
RogueSix wrote on May 23, 2023, 17:40:It's disingenuous to compare a chip from 2015 which nv inevitably makes tiny margins on to those found in PS/XB.jdreyer wrote on May 23, 2023, 17:13:theglaze wrote on May 23, 2023, 12:28:They are still pissed that AMD got all the console business.
TechSpot:There is speculation that Nvidia had initially planned only to release the RTX 4060 Ti with 8GB, but after backlash from the gaming community and issues arising with recently released games on 8GB cards, it seems they reconsidered. In discussions with Nvidia, they attempted to justify their decision, stating that most gamers own 8GB cards and thus developers need to cater to these users. However, this argument falls short when considering the future of gaming and the increased demand for higher VRAM capacities from developers to provide a premium gaming experience.
Wow, that's incredulous. 'Gamers only have 8GB cards that we've forced into the market, therefore, change your game design and artwork to fit into our artificial limitation'
Except they didn't.
Over 125 million Switches were sold. Every single one with nVidia Tegra on board.
Beamer wrote on May 23, 2023, 13:59:It's only 15% at 1080p though, and starts losing ground as you raise resolution. For $400 it should really be a 1440p card, but due to the crunched memory bus and less cache than it's higher end 40 series brethren it very much isn't.Saboth wrote on May 23, 2023, 12:22:
I remember when the 60s were the great value/performance cards. $400 for 1080 is ridiculous. The performance is barely above last gen. As someone with a 3070, I basically have to jump up to 4070 ti or 7900 xt to get any worthwhile performance, but going from $400-$450 mid tier cards to $800 in just a few years just isn't something I care to do.
15% is decent for the same money.
Personally, I think I'd be tempted into a 16GB Arc 770 for 80% the price, but that's more because I'm an annoying contrarian. This would work better in nearly all cases and have far fewer compatibility issues, but being able to say I have an Arc sounds fun.
Burrito of Peace wrote on May 22, 2023, 14:31:That was the first time I saw him in something and my reaction was along the lines of "how isn't he everywhere?!".Beamer wrote on May 22, 2023, 14:08:Rectal Prolapse wrote on May 22, 2023, 14:07:
RIP Ray Stevenson.
https://variety.com/2023/film/people-news/ray-stevenson-dead-punisher-ahsoka-1235621641/
I always thought he was a bit underrated
I have to agree. I thought he was fantastic in Rome.
Bill Borre wrote on May 16, 2023, 13:13:Saw this today on Engadget:
It is interesting that no Microsoft titles have been announced for Nvidia's Geforce Now as of yet. Only promises of coming soon but presumably these could've been mentioned from the get go. It makes me suspicious.
Earlier this year, Microsoft signed deals with a number of game streaming services to bring Xbox-exclusive titles to its rivals. Today we see the first fruits from the relationship ‘twixt Microsoft and NVIDIA as Gears 5 makes its bow on GeForce Now. The PC version of the title is available to play right now, with NVIDIA reminding users that it’s offering discounted signups between now and May 21st. And that higher-paying GeForce Now users can play the title in 1080p at 60fps, or in 4K 120fps if they’ve signed up to Ultimate. NVIDIA added that we should expect to see Deathloop, Grounded and Pentiment — three more Microsoft-owned titles — added to the service on May 25th.
Sepharo wrote on May 16, 2023, 15:48:What actual cloud gaming services exist right now of any note? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure there are 4.thestryker wrote on May 16, 2023, 14:51:
but let's face it the cloud gaming market isn't a thing and likely won't be a thing
Is that a typo?
Did you mean, "is a thing" and "will continue to be a thing" ?
Tipsy McStagger wrote on May 16, 2023, 13:02:Without doing any investigation myself I'd just assume it's a vulture capitalist situation. The company was eventually sold to money people who parted it out and kept the IP for patent trolling.
weird company profile on wikipedia there.. looks like it was a legitimate company at one point then just devolved into lawsuits for technology patents.
the biggest red flag is the CEO is a lawyer and chief counsel.. which makes that much worse optically.