Blue wrote on Mar 19, 2020, 10:56:
This is touchy stuff without name calling and character assassination... disagreeing with you does not make someone a shill.

afka Rossini wrote on Feb 15, 2020, 18:18:

Eirikrautha wrote on Feb 15, 2020, 15:40:
Well, at least they weren't stupid enough to launch on Steam at full price (there's a 40% "discount" on this year-old game... how generous...). Though I notice that the full price is listed at $39.99 and I don't remember if that was the full price on release. Either way, I'm not paying anywhere near that much for Epic's sloppy seconds.

I find that exclusivity deals have just saved me money, because I really have no burning desire to play some of these games after waiting (and enough lets-plays and other material has come out to show me that I probably would have wasted my money if I had bought immediately... looking at you Phoenix Point & Julian Gollop). I'd have bought Mechwarrior 5 launch day full price if it had come out on Steam. Now, I'm honestly not sure if I'll even bother when it gets rereleased, there's just too much wrong with it based on the lets-plays I've watched. Oh well, hopefully that "exclusivity money" was enough to make up for my lost sale...

Since it's the first AAA title I'm aware of to have Epic exclusivity expire and I had any interest in, I picked it up on Steam today for $24 US. That's less than half the original price. If enough Steam buyers show up this week, maybe developers will re-think Epic exclusivity.

Prez wrote on Feb 14, 2020, 11:00:
Again, a company maintaining political neutrality doesn't mean the employees who work there can't express their political views. But when you are in the business of selling an entertainment product to as many people in your diverse market as possible, keeping said entertainment products appealing to all portions of your market is wise. Alienating a significant portion of your potential market just to forward your own personal politics seems stupid to me.

That said, lots of people still maintain a game is "being political" simply by virtue of including homosexual or minority characters, which seems weird to me.

On a personal level I WILL NOT play a game that pushes an agenda, regardless if it's one I agree with or not. That's not why I play games. I game to get away from all that pointless, incessant, back-and-forth shit. Fortunately for me the vast majority of games are made to be entertainment, not recruitment tools, so I rarely run into this.

Borderlands 3 claimed the top position on Twitch for Most-Watched Game on its launch day and has maintained its position as a Top Five Most-Watched Game since launch. In addition, Borderlands 3 has already generated more than 14 million hours of content viewed on Twitch – more than half the viewership that Borderlands 2 generated in its seven-year lifetime.

Beamer wrote on Aug 27, 2019, 20:28:

Eirikrautha wrote on Aug 27, 2019, 19:16:

Nucas wrote on Aug 27, 2019, 15:37:
i'll be the first to say i don't like zoe quinn. she was aptly described as "a lightning rod for drama". but you can really do like 2 minutes of research on the shitter to see she never slept with anyone who ever reviewed a game of hers or wrote about her in any significant way.

Absolutely false. Zoe Quinn was close friends with and slept with Nathan Grayson. On September 5, 2012 he quoted Quinn's opinion and linked to her game in an article on Steam Greenlight for RPS. Then on January 8th, 2014 in RPS, he highlighted Quinn's Depression Quest and called it a "standout" and a "powerful Twine darling." Then on March 31, 2014, Grayson wrote about the failure of an indie project called "GAME_JAM" for Kotaku, used Quinn's opinions on the matter, and ended his coverage with a quote from Quinn that she would like to do a game jam (the right way). She would go on to collect money for her own game jam, but never deliver.

It took me two minutes to find those examples. The only argument I've heard is the exact timing of when they slept together and when the articles were written (even Quinn says they were in a relationship by April 2014). But they had been friends (showing up on live streams, social media, and Grayson is even credited in her game) and he promoted her, as well as her games.

The problem isn't what most people don't know; it's with what they do "know" that isn't true...

3 sentences aren't "significant," especially about a title already generating buzz. Even if you think it is, there's nothing to imply it was transactional. Even if you think it was, he's the villain here, yet weirdly not the focus of gamergate, who can't stop discussing her, despite her never being half as influential as he was and is.

Nucas wrote on Aug 27, 2019, 15:37:
i'll be the first to say i don't like zoe quinn. she was aptly described as "a lightning rod for drama". but you can really do like 2 minutes of research on the shitter to see she never slept with anyone who ever reviewed a game of hers or wrote about her in any significant way.

Beamer wrote on Aug 18, 2019, 13:30:

Eirikrautha wrote on Aug 18, 2019, 12:10:

Beamer wrote on Aug 18, 2019, 09:08:

Vulkan wrote on Aug 18, 2019, 08:21:

Beamer wrote on Aug 17, 2019, 17:47:
Man, some of you really hate stories about non-straight people

As with any story, how much I like it depends on how well written and implemented it is. A game like The Missing does it very well, where the subject of the main character's gender is integral to what the game's story is about and the message that it's trying to convey; this stuff in BL3 just seems to have been added in as a bizarre "Just because we can" afterthought.

True, but what in borderlands isn't bizarre just because they could? They had an entire mission about a robot sadly trying to throw himself a birthday pizza party. The tasks included turning on the boombox and blowing into party favors.

Bizarre shit for the sake of being bizarre.

So you are equating stories about non-straight people with being bizarre? Not cool, man...

You fail at making a gotcha, which is why often no one bothers responding to your trite "debate" skills.

We know you hate anything non-straight, non-white, non-male. Any time these topics come up, you ride your Aryan horse in to whine and complain.

Beamer wrote on Aug 17, 2019, 01:59:
I don't get the "never apologize" thing. Sometimes I accidentally say or do something stupid. The right thing to do is step back, realize you made a mistake, and try to right it.

Beamer wrote on Aug 18, 2019, 09:04:
I think it just stems from a self-important self-righteousness; that s certain group thinks you never need to apologize for something you didn't mean to do. As if intent always takes priority.

Beamer wrote on Aug 18, 2019, 09:08:

Vulkan wrote on Aug 18, 2019, 08:21:

Beamer wrote on Aug 17, 2019, 17:47:
Man, some of you really hate stories about non-straight people

As with any story, how much I like it depends on how well written and implemented it is. A game like The Missing does it very well, where the subject of the main character's gender is integral to what the game's story is about and the message that it's trying to convey; this stuff in BL3 just seems to have been added in as a bizarre "Just because we can" afterthought.

True, but what in borderlands isn't bizarre just because they could? They had an entire mission about a robot sadly trying to throw himself a birthday pizza party. The tasks included turning on the boombox and blowing into party favors.

Bizarre shit for the sake of being bizarre.

MrCharm42 wrote on Aug 17, 2019, 09:50:

The game should if not show then at least mention the horrors of 1800-1900 colonialism and not just sugar coat it with all happy pink unicorns and Mexicans that JUST SO HAPPEN to work on your plantations (And yes, there are plantations). Because that is the opposite of what the setting and the historic victims of this deserve.

So what do they deserve? Force the player to watch a history video that delves deeply into the nuances of various victims? All Civ-like games would then be endlessly tedious to develop/play. Can you imagine watching long lecturing videos every time a new civilization is discovered?
Fiction is fiction - if we're going to have that standard, then all novels are out (unless they have long balancing/edifying afterwords). Or is it all just fine if instead of calling them Mexicans (as in your example) they are just called Xicans or some other made up name?