Nucas wrote on Nov 8, 2020, 00:29:
Mordhaus wrote on Nov 7, 2020, 22:33:
If they did so to further their career, yes. If a site that is well known for posting factual data to debunk conspiracy theories is not proof enough for you, I can't help you.
have you noticed that you're filling in the blanks here?
a guy she was dating appointed her to positions in medical assistance and unemployment benefits. 8 years later, she decided to run for public office.
what you are bringing to your reading: she wanted those positions, and she used sex to get them. this interpretation is not supported by the facts, this is coming from inside your head.
from that snopes article you keep talking about: "At the time, Brown had a reputation for filling many openings with his personal associates and inner circle; when Harris vacated the Appeals Board gig, he replaced her with his longtime buddy Philip S. Ryan."
do you think philip used his body to get that position? i know you don't, so why is it different? i'm super curious! (you're going to have to write mental fan fiction and i'm really looking forward to reading it)
She was dating a much older, powerful man who appointed her to 2 positions that helped launch her career. A honorable person would not accept appointments from someone who they had sexual ties to, simply on the knowledge that sometime in the future that would look EXTREMELY bad. Would you take appointed government positions from someone you were having (or had) sex with? I know I wouldn't, because it says something about a person's character.
Later, that same person used their influence to the fullest to help her get a major government position, an elected one this time, DA of San Francisco. Again, would an honorable person say to themselves, "Hey, I am sure the fact that we used to have sex has no bearing on his current feelings towards me. I'm sure it's not a conflict of interest"? Now from that point on, there is no proof that he assisted her further with his influence. At least none I can find.
It all falls within what you are willing to accept. Do you accept that someone, male or female, should use connections that they forged in a sexual relationship to further the start of their career? If you do, then nothing to see here. She used her connections to get started and that is not something you see as dishonorable or suspicious. If you don't accept that logic, then you must view a person who does things like this as someone reprehensible. It is, in the end, your judgement to make. I consider her to be dishonorable.
I am not saying Trump or anyone else is more honorable. I'm not saying that Trump was a good president. I'm saying that I don't like Biden for his policies and I consider Mrs. Harris to be damaged goods. That is my opinion, which I based on information that is available to anyone. I'm sure women are pressured like this at the start of their career to bend to the will of someone in power all the time. Brown is a terrible person in this as well. Does every woman choose to sacrifice the appearance of honor to get ahead, no. Are they unfairly subjected to it more than men, absolutely. But that does not mean they should not be held accountable for their choices.
Let's take her completely out of the equation. Let's say a young male police officer finds themselves in a position where they are offered a portion of payoff money so as to make them part of the corruption, that way they cannot later report it without taking the blame as well. This is part of a systematic corruption that has existed for decades. Should they take the money and dishonor themselves, knowing it is the safe thing to do, or should they do there best to expose it at the cost of their future career?
Yeah, it's the plot of Serpico. Which is based on the true story of Frank Serpico. His future career was ruined and he could have died. He was honorable. If he had taken the money and kept his mouth shut, then we wouldn't know anything about the corruption in the NYPD back in the 70's. Cops still cover for each other today, because it is the easy way. It doesn't matter race, sex, or creed. You can take the handout or you can do it on your own.