Cutter wrote on Jun 17, 2021, 21:14:
Because putting hands on them is assault. So no, there's nothing they can do beyond call the police - who obviously don't bother to show up.
It's not assault to attempt to regain stolen merchandise. It can be dangerous, which is why most companies tell their employees not to do it and hire third party security
. Think of it like basketball....if you get the ball it ain't a foul. The thief literally put it all in a bag the guy could have easily grabbed. My point is that Walgreens is paying for security that will stand by and watch while Office Depot and Target are paying for security that will literally stop you at the door by force. Some Targets in my area have the ability to remotely lock the front doors these days. I know it's easy to believe that in SF a security guy would get rung up for assault....but we haven't put our heads that far up our collective asses. Not quite yet anyway. The dollar limit on misdemeanor vs felony theft and police response time literally has nothing to do with anything other than the ability to criminally charge the thief.
Another good example is Kaiser-Permanente. They do these flu shot clinics outside. We have just enough crazy weirdos in California that they have to hire security for those events because there is always some asshole who thinks breaking up the flu shot clinic is his true destiny as a superhero. In my two months it didn't happen often, C19 had come, but apparently it had become a problem leading up to that time. Anyway, those guys would throw a dude to the ground, pin an arm and hold them until police got there. A few times they just escorted them off the premises and that was that. The people being so manhandled usually only destroyed some hospital property, stole some needles, and delayed the lines. They rarely threatened staff. Not one assault charge or lawsuit. It just isn't a thing, but I can see why Walgreens and other companies that are facing bankruptcy and an inability to hire because their wages suck would want to not spend even more money on security.
I mean if there is a lawyer here who thinks I am wrong, I am here for it. As a voter here, this is my understanding of things though.
From my news feed this morning, local CBS:
Adam Gelb, director of the public safety performance project at The Pew Charitable Trusts, disputes those sorts of anecdotes.
“The vast majority of offenders just aren’t fine-tuning their behavior that way,” Gelb said.
His organization recently reported finding no effect on property crimes and larceny rates in 23 states that increased the threshold to charge thefts as felonies instead of misdemeanors between 2001 and 2011. California raised its threshold from $400 in 2010.
“It’s hard to see how raising the level to $950 in California would touch off a property crime wave when raising it to $2,000 in South Carolina six years ago hasn’t registered any impact at all,” Gelb said.