Seems there are some consequences for lack of ethics and attacking your own customers that feed you. Traffic in many of the sites associated to the gamer's death debacle is sharply down.

Also, a gamasutra article may have lead to the downgrade of the author of it. People are trying to find more details.

eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 3, 2014, 10:30:

Verno wrote on Sep 3, 2014, 09:30:

eRe4s3r wrote on Sep 3, 2014, 09:06:
So anyway, since I miss my daily links.. turns out IGF was rigged?

Indie-fensible! - The Maya "Legobutts" Kramer Story!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgW5NRUfs44

Fun!

Can you sum it up? Youtube is crappy while I'm on the train.

You can always watched it when you have time It's too much to TLDR

If you followed the drama through youtube videos so far this one is gonna leave you stunned

And one more video by MundaneMatt that discusses the trend of comparing gamers to nazis. Yeah, it's a real thing now.

Blue, you're (even more) famous now!

10 Things You Need To Know About The #GamerGate Scandal

"Articles everywhere have sprung up overnight claiming that ‘gamers are dead’, or ‘gamers are killing gamers’. Chances are you’ve seen one of these articles with whatever sensationalist title they’ve used to draw you in, but why are people saying this? What does #GamerGate mean?

Well, to put it simply, the general gaming public are concerned with the quality and integrity of video game journalism. Much evidence has surfaced over the past few weeks that exposes many gaming journalists have personal ties with the people they sponsor and write about. Type in #gamergate on any social media site (Twitter and Tumblr being the most bountiful) to be flourished with a wave of evidence supporting this.

And how have the journalists over at Kotaku and Polygon and the like reacted to this? With interesting and critical analysis of their own practices and methods? No. Fact-checking all the sides of the debate before coming to a reasonable and logical conclusion? No – just pointing fingers at gamers and saying that they are to blame. With this barrage of accusations from journalists and their followers, it can be pretty difficult to find out what GamerGate is truly about.

This article should help clear things up."

Is Radical Feminism Hindering the Progress of Video Games?

"Before I begin let me state that this article isn’t some hate filled rant about how women are evil or how feminism is ruining video games and life for men. Of course, some radical types will see the title and see that it’s written by a man and immediately mark it down as sexism, but I hope the rest of you will give it a chance as I try to explain how the radical feminist movement is actually hindering the progress of video games rather than helping it achieve the diversity that they wish for. Over the past few weeks there has been a lot of mention in the media of Zoe Quinn, the developer behind Depression Quest and her rise to power in the video game industry. You can read more about this here but for the time being I’ll be ignoring this completely. In this article I’ll be exploring some of the points that are brought up by feminists concerning sexism in video games and how not only are these points incorrect but how they are damaging the actual feminist movement."

Lying, Greedy, Promiscuous Feminist Bullies are Tearing the Video Game Industry Apart

"It's a fact of life that the video games industry is awash with marginalised, troubled people who have found it difficult to manage their lives in mainstream society. It's particularly the case when you look at independent or "indie" video game developers, a remarkable proportion of whom suffer from depression or anxiety disorders. Many of these people end up as enthusiastic campaigners for one or more causes they feel deserve wider attention.

The journalists who cover games and gamers are subject to similar peculiarities and challenges, which perhaps explains widespread frustration from players that every blog out there seems more concerned with policing misogyny and "transphobia" than reviewing the latest game releases. As a result, gaming sites and their readers have drifted apart in recent years. Journalists have sided with activists to pen soporific op-eds about the need for "equality" in video games, while the people who actually play games just want to know if the latest instalment is good value for money.

Meanwhile, there have been grumbles that journalists are getting too close to their subjects, and that they speak ever more insultingly about their bread and butter customers – that is, their predominantly male readers – the longer they spend in the company of feminist activists and other agitators."

Powerful article by Milo Yiannopoulos who already got death threats over it. His response on twitter:

Email death threat count now in double figures. Things I won't be doing: calling the police, making a video, writing a blog post. #GamerGate

Article critical of the agendas in the gaming press.

"Game developers should be able to develop whatever games they want. If a game developer wants their protagonist to be a white, straight, cis male, that should be okay. If a game developer wants their protagonist to be a black, lesbian, transgendered female, that should be okay, too. If a game developer wants their protagonist to be a busty girl wearing nothing more than dental floss, that should also be okay.

Game developers should be free to develop any kind of game they want, with whatever content they want, with whatever protagonist they want - and that includes straight, white, cis males. No game developer should feel obligated to please every possible minority. No game developer should feel obligated to be 100% politically correct at all times. And no game journalist should feel entitled to slander game developers for developing content that isn't aimed towards them."

Ugh. This only spells doom for all since the publisher market is slowly gearing towards a strong oligopoly/weak monopoly type of market.

jdreyer wrote on Aug 31, 2014, 16:14:

Sho wrote on Aug 31, 2014, 16:05:

jdreyer wrote on Aug 31, 2014, 15:25:
Given her bio, I wouldn't expect anything different. :)

See, this highlights the problem: Because we were given her conclusion, but not her analysis or arguments, we're left with discussing her bio, and it's not leading to anything constructive. This is why people really need to stop posting only assertions/conclusions. And ignore those who do.

Well, true. I'd like to see her in-depth discussion on this. But since that doesn't exist, all I can do is look at her bio and find that it fits perfectly with exactly everything else she's done. I suppose her arguments would probably be the same ones as in her books, which I've not read. Finding out that she's paid by the AEI makes me suspicious of her motives.

Like I've said, she's linked to a lot of pretty disgusting stuff. She has however been writing a lot of tweets on this. Here's her account. Let me paraphrase the tweets in chronological order, without the retweets she made. No context other than the tweets themselves but I think they clear things up on her position on this affair.

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 22h
Is it true that game journalists challenged bad research linking video games to violence,but caved to feminist "studies" linking to sexism?

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 22h
It is clear that gamers are being bullied by opportunistic,evidence-free gender warriors.But who are the enablers?Game companies? Bloggers?

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 21h
Women would cry foul if little group of male bloggers started "critiquing" & policing their romance novels or fashion magazines.

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 21h
@RollyKahn Interesting.When feminists tried to "correct" sexist themes in romance novels in 80s, they were reviled by readers & industry.

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 20h
Serious gamers probably don't care if chatty experts on the "culture of gaming" declare their hobby dead.

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 20h
Recent assault on gamers is part of a larger campaign against guys. https://t.co/hxPqNMqwKD

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 19h
A splenetic,male-averse 3rd wave feminism has marched unopposed thru the academy, journalism,politics.Maybe it will take gamers to stop it!

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 18h
I always expected other liberal-minded scholars to join me in exposing 3rd wave feminist lunacy.Never happened.But now the gamers r here.

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 18h
I played Bejeweled a few times, so according to study touted by PBS, I am now part of a dominant gamer demographic. http://t.co/CuKPJuhttl


Some tweets about other topics


Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 7h
The excellent Penn Jillette defends video games with logic and reason in hostile concernocrat environment. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ohzJqq_m3uo

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 6h
If video games cause violence and mayhem then it's odd that crime has dropped as video game sales have soared. http://t.co/AaHFOEeClS

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 2h
Most gamers seem to support equality feminism. What they reject is today's male-bashing, propaganda-driven, female chauvinism. #GamerGate


Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 1h
ICYMI: Recent interview in which I explain why today's hashtag feminism is a scourge. #GamerGate http://t.co/78YNUMZ0gr

Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers · 1h
How did feminism become toxic? In early 90s, my side won all the arguments. But other side quietly assumed all the assistant professorships.


Bolded part mine, where she pretty much makes her feelings on this matter pretty clear.

Like I've said, she has a lot of disgusting stuff in her resume, does not make what she says on this matter any less valid.

Beamer wrote on Aug 31, 2014, 15:11:

Mad Max RW wrote on Aug 31, 2014, 15:04:
The argument is lost and you stand alongside him.

Yet, at PAX, the argument was thriving and, frankly, far less of an argument than one may think. Anita's name was met with cheers. Developers keep coming out in support of changing the industry and, like in the case of Saints Row, admitting how poorly they'd done in the past. The build of Fortnite I played was only men, but the developers were saying it's due to the characters being somewhat placeholder and there will be plenty of women in the game, that their experiences in GoW had shown them how the old days of female character design were dead.

Because PAX represents the whole gaming world, including all gamers, right?

Beamer wrote on Aug 31, 2014, 13:47:
Yes, from a woman employed by a Koch backed conservative think tank that denies climate change, argues against raises in minimum wage, argues against Wall Street regulation, and has been paid by the tobacco industry to write reports in support of the tobacco industry.

Christina Sommers is a real winner.

Citation on the wonderful work her employer, the American Enterprise Institute, does to make sure the Koch Brothers and their peers stay super rich while the rest of us suffer.
This is a woman you want to cite for common sense?

Sure, she has done pretty disgusting things, and I mean disgusting, as you've pointed out. Doesn't make what she said on this matter any less valid.

Also, the people on your side sure are as far from saints as you can get.

Beamer's strategy: when beaten, misdirect, slander, cherry-pick and lie.

Damn me but I'm loving playing this game. I had my strong doubts during the kickstarter but boy have I never been gladder to have been proved dead wrong before.

It is good to see Braben didn't lost sight of what made Elite and Frontier great and it's even better to see that he can build on it, expand on it and still make a cracking awesome game.

This is a big one. Christina Sommers, one of the big names of the feminist movement, tweeted this:

"It is clear that gamers are being bullied by opportunistic,evidence-free gender warriors.But who are the enablers?Game companies? Bloggers?"

This only shows the wide rift between real feminists/humanitarians and SJWs.

jdreyer wrote on Aug 30, 2014, 19:47:

ASeven wrote on Aug 30, 2014, 18:55:
Interesting article written by a feminist about this past week.

Works like this:

Saint's Row Director responds to being criticized by Sarkeesian and having Saint's Row included in her video:

"This something we all should be better at. Yes the orignial saints row is listed here. Yes it should be."
“I think that we shouldn’t be portraying senseless abused women and I think that if I could go back and hop in a time machine I would have done things differently.”

“I think it’s fair to be called out on your shit. I think that it’s a sad man that can never be self-reflective. I think that we tried to go and carry ourselves with respect, and try to respect sexuality and respect gender as much as we can, and sometimes we fail but hopefully we’ll do better and continue to get better.”

Roger that. Also, I do check for malware on the sites but then again I have adblock, Ghostery and Privacy Badger active.

Interesting article written by a feminist about this past week.

Gamernosh site weighs in on this controversy.

A tumblr that keeps track of the nasty deeds of SJWs.

Boogie replies to the "gamers are dead" articles.

Beamer wrote on Aug 30, 2014, 04:12:
Adding on to this, here are some choice quotes from the Reddit link that Mashiki Amiketo kindly linked us to, and where he and possibly ASeven get their information:

"So this is a thing," which is a discussion about a PAX Prime panel about what the industry is like for people that aren't straight, white, cisgendered males.
Here are some choice comments:

"Even though straight white cisgendered men are not a majority, "

They are among the US game buying public, you fucking bitch.


You know what fuck Penny Arcade at this point.


In other conversations:
Then again, nothing that a feminist says ever does (make sense).



This is better than "SJWs?"

To which I reply:

Beamer wrote on Aug 28, 2014, 12:42:
Why is it that you think these morons speak for everyone?
You get angry when people say that the death threats and rape threats speak for all men.

So why are you so happy assuming that fringe morons are the norm?

Hypocrisy, thy name is Beamer.

An updated post on all "Gamers are dead" articles, with the article post time where possible. Strange how in a couple days suddenly a ton of sites decided that gamers are dead. Sure makes you feel suspicious.

>'Gamers' don't have to be your audience. 'Gamers' are over. Exclusive - Leigh Alexander, Gamasutra (Aug 28, 10:00am)
https://archive.today/l1kTW

>We Might Be Witnessing The 'Death of An Identity' - Luke Plunkett, Kotaku (Aug 28, 8:00pm)
https://archive.today/YlBhH

>A Guide to Ending "Gamers" - Devin Wilson, Gamasutra (Aug 28, 7:57 pm)
https://archive.today/2t93l

>The End of Gamers - Dan Golding (Tumblr)
https://archive.today/L4vJG

>The death of the “gamers” and the women who “killed” them - Casey Johnson, arstechnica (Aug 28, 5:00pm)
https://archive.today/i928J

>It's Dangerous to Go Alone: Why Are Gamers So Angry? - Arthur Chu, The Daily Beast (Aug 28)
https://archive.today/9NxHy

>Gaming Is Leaving “Gamers” Behind - Joseph Bernstein, Buzzfeed (Aug 28, 8:29 pm)
https://archive.today/jVqJ8

>An awful week to care about video games - Chris Plante, Polygon (Aug 28, 1:21pm)
https://archive.today/rkvO8

>Sexism, Misogyny, and online attacks: It's a horrible time to consider yourself a gamer - Patrick O'Rourke, Financial Post (Aug 28, 9:33pm)
https://archive.today/HkPHc

>Misogynistic trolls drive feminist video game critic from her home - Callie Beusman, Jezebel (Aug 28, 4:05pm)
https://archive.today/kXX7y

>A disheartening account of the harassment going on in gaming right now (and how Adam Baldwin is involved) - Victoria McNally, The Mary Sue (Aug 28, 1:30pm)
https://archive.today/11OEl

>Feminist video bloggers driven from home by death threats - Jack Smith IV, BetaBeat (Aug 28, 10:50am)
https://archive.today/zHH4T

>Anita Sarkeesian threatened with rape and murder for daring to keep critiquing video games - Anna Minard, The Stranger (Aug 28, 6:00am)
https://archive.today/StChn

>Fanboys, white knights, and the hairball of online misogyny - Tauriq Moosa, The Daily Beast (Aug 28)
https://archive.today/wptL5

>This guy's embarassing relationship drama is killing the 'gamer' identity - Mike Pearl, Vice (Aug 29)
https://archive.today/L4n6p

Beamer wrote on Aug 29, 2014, 18:03:
Fair enough.
But, again, unlike you, I don't spend every waking hour compiling an obsessive, massive list of these things.

Seriously, you just pulled those up in about 5 minutes.
Does this not seem unhealthy to you? How angry you are?

At this point your agenda is pretty obvious and I don't think I owe you any explanation, it doesn't make any difference. You stick to your own circular logic and refuse to move out of it. Just FYI, this info is easily found using google in a minute.

Also, love your passive-aggressive ad-hominem there. Weren't you taught to avoid that in any discussion in law school?