Kevin Lowe wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 23:12:

His complaint is that others, by buying products they enjoy, are not shaping the market to his desires. If that isn't entitlement, then what is?

Kevin Lowe wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 17:25:

ASeven wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 17:22:

Kevin Lowe wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 16:46:
"Consequences it might do to the market"? Oh, do go on. This should be good for a laugh. What consequence is this game going to have that aren't perfectly ameliorated by the simple procedure I described in my post (JUST DON'T BUY IT!)?

This type of reply only shows you have really no idea what you're talking about, do you?

If I don't buy something, others might, something that seems to have not entered your flawed logic. And if others buy the game it shapes the market. If a game with draconian DRM sells a lot it will send a message to publishers, regardless if I bought it or not. And regardless if I bought it or not I will voice my displeasure about consumer rights being throttled due to draconian DRM. That's just one example of all the shit Ubisoft, and the gaming industry, keeps pulling on us.

Then again I'm starting to think you really have no idea of what you're talking about based on your continued flawed logic.

So what if someone else buys something you're not happy with! Publishers are in business to make money, and as long as enough people are happy enough with their products to pay for them, what does it matter what you, me, or any other one person thinks of them?

Quboid wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 16:55:

ASeven wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 16:40:
Are you subtly implying that anyone who doesn't buy a game doesn't have an opinion about it and about its consequences it might do to the market?

I don't think he knows it, but he's implying that the right to not buy a game is the only consumer right we've ever had (if that's what we're left with after giving up 0 rights). This is not true.

Kevin Lowe wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 16:46:
"Consequences it might do to the market"? Oh, do go on. This should be good for a laugh. What consequence is this game going to have that aren't perfectly ameliorated by the simple procedure I described in my post (JUST DON'T BUY IT!)?

Kevin Lowe wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 16:32:

ASeven wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 16:24:
So... wanting to be treated with respect as a customer and not be bullshited before and after we buy a game is now entitlement.

Entitlement my ass!

You guys are the entitled ones to think we have to listen to your bullshit opinion and give up basic consumer rights just because publishers think we're walking wallets without brains, and you people eat this bullshit all the way and spew it everywhere.

Ubisoft has treated PC gamers as second class citizens and still does. From Watch Dogs locked PC features to Uplay always crashing and preventing people from playing and Ubisoft doing shit to fix this time and again. I don't think anyone here is in favor of any kind of piracy and yet we are still using the same old stupid fallacy of painting every PC gamer as pirates and that it's our fault for this only shows you either have an agenda to say such shit or you're just plain stupid.

As someone said, the only reason people might be defending Ubisoft is either if they're trolls, idiots or shills or a combination of the 3.

Actually, no, you don't have to give up basic consumer rights! You still have the most important one at all - the right to decline to purchase. If Ubisoft puts out a product you don't want, and you choose not to give them your money, then they can do exactly zero harm to you.

Kevin Lowe wrote on Jun 21, 2014, 11:52:
Then why is the PC Master Race pirating their products in the first place? If you guys don't see value in what they're producing, then why spend time on them?

Verno wrote on Jun 18, 2014, 10:18:
I didn't really enjoy this, spent a few hours with it on the weekend. I like BF games in general but this feels like a weird mishmash of BF mechanics with other subgenres and sits in a strange spot as a result.

Quboid wrote on Jun 16, 2014, 18:13:

hello newman wrote on Jun 16, 2014, 17:47:
I wonder if Blue would ban an account that pulled that on bluesnews.com ...

Hmm, good question.

A duck wrote on Jun 16, 2014, 17:47

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I broke the board! Muahahahaha!

Trevellian wrote on Jun 16, 2014, 13:40:

ASeven wrote on Jun 16, 2014, 12:09:
https://twitter.com/GranPC/status/478554937111371776

Apparently, the vulnerability isn't even fixed.

I find this to be an abuse of power from Valve. It's never good to have an almost monopoly of a market, in this case PC games digital distribution, because shit like this will happen.

But... they don't have a Monopoly. Origin, which everyone loves to hate on for no reason other than existing, exists.