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Beamer wrote on Jun 14, 2019, 12:11:

Yes, the way to tolerance begins with being intolerant of intolerance.

"The paradox of tolerance"

And what happens when my intolerance-tolerance and your intolerance-tolerance matrix differs?

The one with the "biggest gun" wins? Does it end with name-calling and silencing the other side, or do you go farther with your intolerance into violence?

When the pendulum swings back, as Rome demonstrated the inevitability of, I hope that the other side is tolerant of your intolerance, and allows the discussion to happen.

Verno wrote on Jun 14, 2019, 11:19:
The way towards tolerance involves not being a douchebag on public forums, let me know if there are any other obvious life lessons I can lend a hand with

Interesting.

I'm a bigot, an idiot, should be silenced,... and a douchebag, because I asked a perfectly reasonable question about where the line between "I disagree with this human activity" and "bigot" lies.

Suddenly Socrates commentaries makes more sense.

A brave new world, where "hegemon" doesn't exist, pursuing logic / reason are despised because it makes us uncomfortable, and the solution is to silence, name call, and refuse to provide rationale.

"tolerance"

Maybe the solution is to empower a global digital .. pyramid shaped (I won't use the H word) .. power structure which determines "what we are allowed to talk about" is a good idea; Russia in the 50s had it right all along!

Verno wrote on Jun 14, 2019, 09:31:
I pretty much tune out anyone who says "hegemony" at this point in my life. It works wonders. The fact that you remain unbanned is a testament to the frankly ridiculous tolerance here. Count yourself lucky, on any other forum I frequent you would be already be turfed.

Hegemony is the history of mankind. Human institutions become increasingly obtuse pyramid structures over time.

You can "tune out" the historical record, and the internal validation of this plain fact, your call!

The way towards tolerance is intolerance eh? The way towards increasing knowledge is to block an exchange of ideas?


Fantastic comment, I genuinely chuckled.

It's fine to delete it.

But it was a legitimate argument (the idea that 'rejecting human activity A, B or C != bigotry')

Your site, your rules!

The new public square being owned by the digital global hegemon should be required to support the 1st amendment in the US though (China can censor as it pleases, smaller sites like this, etc), because the alternative is a mono-opinion in the public square, which has taken upon itself to point and demonize ("bigots and nazis everywhere!!"), which never ends well.

Bad / evil opinions are naturally weeded out or marginalized by the free market of ideas, not censorship.

Deleting my legitimate arguments is just a preview of what will come.

A control grid, which will inevitably turn on all dissent of its hegemony. I'm shocked that this isn't plainly obvious frankly.

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To support freedom of speech, I joined the crowder mug club, and dont even watch those type of daily show esque comedy shows.

Freedom of expression and thought is paramount to the US system.

If we cede the public square to global digital hegemonic corporations, it's over.

Tienneman. USSR. Etc.

Speaking of which, it is an express tactic of the "non-democratic" systems to decry "bigot" against the perceived enemies of the hegemon..

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

^ what happened to this idea? People's "sexual orientation" supersede it eh? Not going to end well!

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Kinda shocked blue, but it's ok; the other equivocation is a legitimate comparison

Rome in 100 BCE coming soon with pendulum reversal. Lex Julia on repeat

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Why was this question I asked removed?

Genuinely curious, as it's a logical deduction to correlate "sex act" with "sex act", if rejecting one is bigotry and the other is not, what is the line?

Also: homophobia is a misnomer, nobody is scared of "gay", but reject the social implications. See Lex Julia for a historical example from pre-Christian Rome.

Betting with the odds that a response is likely "you are low IQ" without a counter-argument, but maybe this will be a first!

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How about instead of ending free speech we just end speech?

"Hate"

.. I just offended myself, not sure what to think, will turn on MSNBC and find out.

Skyrim VR is fantastic as a hold-over for the killer app.

The population is becoming a low IQ shadow of itself as preprogrammed sex robots and people are mad that a youtuber texts nudes?

Ha

Porn enslaves you to fake passions. Avoid at all costs!

Or become a slave. Your choice!

I had so much AMD at $8.

Gave up almost 300k in gains selling for pennies.

Such is trading!

Bought the dip on FB and sold the peak.

Good times.