It's fucking absurd and ignorant to think that a game that receives a patch before it ships was just not fully tested
Can you leave personal attacks out of this. I was careful of my wording. I said "as fully tested as it should have been". Sure software is growing ever more complex and there may never be any perfect release. And no range of testing (aside from public beta) can ever predict what 100,000 users will do with your product.
The difference here is that they're finding bugs BEFORE
those 100,000 users ever got their hands on the final product. If bugs are still being found between the time of going gold and appearing on store shelves, then the product was not tested and polished as much as it should have been.
I'm sure that missing the 2005 holiday release incurred alot more pressure for them to release, but thats no excuse.
Patches are fine, that means the developers are supporting their product. But please ignoring what games with patches released on day 1 really are: unfinished.