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News Comments > Out of the Blue
26. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 14, 2016, 19:41 BobBob
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 19:32:
Cutter wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 18:01:
You can't travel at the speed of light, but there's nothing that says you can't bypass it. Everything from warp bubbles to folding space to string theory and quantum entanglement are just the beginning. I believe it's fully possible. Simply that man won't survive long enough to get there.
It might be possible, unfortunately even if it is possible it is extremely unlikely it will be discovered in our lifetimes. Which is definitely the single largest disappointment of my life. As to whether we'll survive long enough as a species to reach that point, is certainly debatable. Personally, even though I won't live to see it, I like to hope we can make it.

Why assume 'modern man' is the final species when evolution historically demonstrates a pattern otherwise?
 
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24. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 14, 2016, 19:14 BobBob
 
Playing devil's advocate ...

There is more evidence to say that life evolves from a single source than spontaneously exists from multiple locations.

Let's base this on evolution -- which states:

"All life on Earth shares a common ancestor known as the last universal ancestor, which lived approximately 3.5–3.8 billion years ago, although a study in 2015 found "remains of biotic life" from 4.1 billion years ago in ancient rocks in Western Australia."

"Repeated formation of new species (speciation), change within species (anagenesis), and loss of species (extinction) throughout the evolutionary history of life on Earth are demonstrated by shared sets of morphological and biochemical traits, including shared DNA sequences.[10] These shared traits are more similar among species that share a more recent common ancestor, and can be used to reconstruct a biological "tree of life" based on evolutionary relationships (phylogenetics), using both existing species and fossils. The fossil record includes a progression from early biogenic graphite, to microbial mat fossils, to fossilized multicellular organisms. Existing patterns of biodiversity have been shaped both by speciation and by extinction. More than 99 percent of all species that ever lived on Earth are estimated to be extinct. Estimates of Earth's current species range from 10 to 14 million, of which about 1.2 million have been documented."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Perhaps Natural Selection is also the way the universe works. What if Earth survived the natural selection process and is the 'beginning' origin of life throughout the universe? It would fit into the paradigm of a single origin of life on Earth that spread and evolved on the planet.

The universe is claimed to be 14 ~~ billions years old.

That's about 10 billion years for the universe to expand, select, and eventually give rise to Earth and its life to occur.

It took nearly 4.5 ~~ billion years for humans to arrive (approx 7 million years ago), modern man approximately 125,000.

Modern humans are speculated to originally come from Africa (notice a single source / location).

Let's assume roughly 4 billion years ago life formed on the planet. Did it start to form in several areas on Earth or just a single spot and spread? If the origin is singular (as evidence is showing) and it spread, why do we assume such spontaneous reactions occured throughout the universe? Let's assume life on Earth has a singular origin (the first amino acids) and migrated by sea currents and eventually by land via plate tectonics. If that's the case, it logically follows that humans might be the first lifeform to migrate by space and spread by such an evolutionary process to other worlds. In other words, if humans are the first lifeforms to spread (colonize) the universe it follows the pattern of the origin of various species evolving from a single source and location and spreading throughout the planet.

Other than evidence of life on our own planet, name one single piece of evidence or reason we should believe that life exists on any other planet. So far, all we've seen is that life cannot exist elsewhere. What if there is only one in a trillion possibilities for life to exist on any planet and we so happen to be that one in a trillion?

If the universe is so young, we could be the first. 4 billions of years of life existed on our own planet before the human species. It's possible when we colonize other planets that we are simply part an evolutionary chain that will populate the universe as has been the case with our own planet.

You can speculate that species of life existed before ours on other planets and that the universe had a beginning but that implies that something was probably first. Why assume that Earth isn't the first?

If you're going to use a Star Trek analogy -- well that only shows that life existed from a single species who spread their DNA across the cosmos - ST:TNG The Chase. Perhaps that species is us.

Besides fantasy and speculation, I'm waiting for some real evidence. It's quite possible we are the only ones - as part of a chain of life in the universe - and it makes logical sense if we are.

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18. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 14, 2016, 15:47 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 15:33:
BobBob wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 15:18:
jdreyer wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 15:01:
BobBob wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 13:34:
As I suspected he was clearly a psychopath but the discussions are all about everything else (gun control, fanaticism, hate, etc.) other than the lack of mental health awareness, diagnosis, proper treatment, and institutionalization.

Certain mental conditions like psychopathy, sociopathy, and NPD are only treatable if the afflicted admits the problem and seeks health. By definition, they think there's nothing wrong with them, or if they do they do their best to hide it. There isn't an easy way to otherwise diagnose and treat these people. And under the law, I don't think there's even away to have someone like that committed until they actually commit a crime. How would you stop a Mateen or a Ted Bundy?

Before the LPS Act they would have been early diagnosed, treated, and forced to be institutionalized. It's time for a revisit.

"In 1967, Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (LPS), which went into effect in 1969 and quickly became a national model. Among other things, it prohibited forced medication or extended hospital stays without a judicial hearing."

Source.

And ...

"The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. During the following Ronald Reagan administration, the United States Congress repealed the law. The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy."

Source

Okay, but the LPS wouldn't have helped in this case. As I mentioned, these particular types of conditions are concealable, and even if LPS were in place, a functioning member of society with little or no criminal record isn't going to be institutionalized.

Quoting from the same article:

"Definitive statements are difficult to make and it is equally possible to find recent literature supporting the conclusions that the mentally ill are no more violent, they are as violent, or they are more violent than their nonmentally ill counterparts."

"Because of the significant methodological challenges faced by researchers in this field, the nature of this association remains unclear. For example, violence has been difficult to measure directly, so that researchers have often relied on official documentation or uncorroborated selfreports. The prevalence of violence has been demonstrated to differ dramatically depending on the source. Most samples have not been representative of all mentally ill individuals, but only of those with the highest risk of becoming dangerous, such as those who are hospitalized or arrested. Study designs have not always eliminated individuals with a prior history of violence (a major predictor of future violence), controlled for co-morbid substance abuse, or clearly determined the sequencing of events, thereby weakening any causal arguments that might be made."

Why? Because decades of laws have prevented forced psychiatric treatment and hospitalizations.

Just about all the shooters were diagnosed at one point in time with a mental illness or personality disorder. This particular person was constantly reviewed as a mental case by the authorities all the way back to elementary school (see my earlier post) where he was suspended. Early and forced intervention would have discovered this and put him under a regime of psychiatric supervision had proper legislation been supported.

If he was psychotic and taking steroids, without any psychiatric intervention, it may have been a tipping point.

Here's another: Example. Would have been forced to undergo a mandatory psychiatric evaluation if laws didn't prevent it.

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13. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 14, 2016, 15:18 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 15:01:
BobBob wrote on Jun 14, 2016, 13:34:
As I suspected he was clearly a psychopath but the discussions are all about everything else (gun control, fanaticism, hate, etc.) other than the lack of mental health awareness, diagnosis, proper treatment, and institutionalization.

Certain mental conditions like psychopathy, sociopathy, and NPD are only treatable if the afflicted admits the problem and seeks health. By definition, they think there's nothing wrong with them, or if they do they do their best to hide it. There isn't an easy way to otherwise diagnose and treat these people. And under the law, I don't think there's even away to have someone like that committed until they actually commit a crime. How would you stop a Mateen or a Ted Bundy?

Before the LPS Act they would have been early diagnosed, treated, and forced to be institutionalized. It's time for a revisit.

"In 1967, Gov. Ronald Reagan signed the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act (LPS), which went into effect in 1969 and quickly became a national model. Among other things, it prohibited forced medication or extended hospital stays without a judicial hearing."

Source.

And ...

"The Mental Health Systems Act of 1980 (MHSA) was United States legislation signed by President Jimmy Carter which provided grants to community mental health centers. During the following Ronald Reagan administration, the United States Congress repealed the law. The MHSA was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy."

Source

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8. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 14, 2016, 13:34 BobBob
 
As I suspected he was clearly a psychopath but the discussions are all about everything else (gun control, fanaticism, hate, etc.) other than the lack of mental health awareness, diagnosis, proper treatment, and institutionalization.  
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News Comments > Quake Champions Announced
44. Re: Quake Champions Announced Jun 13, 2016, 23:19 BobBob
 
Osc8r wrote on Jun 13, 2016, 18:46:
Quake 1... still the best competitive FPS ever made.

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32. Re: Quake Champions Announced Jun 13, 2016, 16:08 BobBob
 
Nullity wrote on Jun 13, 2016, 15:54:

Make it happen and you'll print money.

Bonus points for full editor and mod support.

I'd be surprised if they gave people a flexible editor and the ability to mod beyond simple mapping. It works against the ability to milk DLCs. I suspect running your own dedicated server is probably going to be out as well. They will most likely want to privatize everything to keep the DLC funds, advertising, and ladder competitions, and social interactions all under a single umbrella of control. I would prefer to be wrong.

 
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 13, 2016, 15:53 BobBob
 
Cutter wrote on Jun 13, 2016, 15:31:
This is why mankind simply won't make it in the long run. Contemplate that on the Tree of Woe.

A similar argument could be made for the environment. By destroying the inhabitable environment, mankind will go extinct, and later on the environment will restore itself to become inhabitable again. So the best way to save the environment is to let mankind destroy it first.

One might as well do nothing for that's exactly the solution.

Fatalism at its finest.

And by that logic, any contribution you make to the discussion is a 'whine' or 'simply to see yourself type' because doing something willful is contrary to the incompatibilist viewpoint when making the claim of determinism.
 
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News Comments > Prey Announced
20. Re: Prey Announced Jun 13, 2016, 15:08 BobBob
 
Let's hope the kill yourself to win mechanic has been removed.  
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25. Re: Quake Champions Announced Jun 13, 2016, 14:58 BobBob
 
Will I be able to cg_fov 120 and r_picmip 5?  
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
7. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 13, 2016, 14:49 BobBob
 
Pigeon wrote on Jun 13, 2016, 14:33:
BobBob wrote on Jun 13, 2016, 13:46:
We’ve seen this before: San Bernardino, Orlando shootings share similarities

When are the people of this country going to be so tired of psychopaths running the streets and hurting people that we will finally take mental health seriously? Don't give me the red herrings - guns, religion, conspiracies, groups, hate, being disenfranchised, bad childhood, etc.

A normal, sane, person hasn't and won't go on a rampage.

One major problem is the horrific state of our mental health institutions. Laws and legislation has been passed and repealed that prevent mental institutions from involuntary committing people who can cause others harm. Instead they are either arrested, temporarily incarcerated (to socialize with other psychopaths), and released.

Whether you include guns or not, religion or not, belief systems or not, they are mere correlation - incubators (or catalysts) for the violent psychopath who will eventually do harm. When will people finally take a stand to say enough is enough? We need better mental health institutions, we need mandatory commitments, and we need constant intervention.

/rant

There is a pervasive ignorance surrounding mental health in this country that causes significant barriers to seeking and obtaining help. Until the large majority of the country can start to see the mentally ill as people who are just suffering form and ailment instead of personal defects; people that just don't have enough Jesus, or are just feeling sorry for themselves and need to man up, we will never see change. We won't have laws that encourage treatment, we won't have a health insurance that actually covers treatment, and most importantly we won't have people who seek treatment without fear of stigma.

So we are SOL? Mental illness is the major common factor, if not the common factor.
 
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5. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 13, 2016, 13:46 BobBob
 
We’ve seen this before: San Bernardino, Orlando shootings share similarities

When are the people of this country going to be so tired of psychopaths running the streets and hurting people that we will finally take mental health seriously? Don't give me the red herrings - guns, religion, conspiracies, groups, hate, being disenfranchised, bad childhood, etc.

A normal, sane, person hasn't and won't go on a rampage.

One major problem is the horrific state of our mental health institutions. Laws and legislation has been passed and repealed that prevent mental institutions from involuntary committing people who can cause others harm. Instead they are either arrested, temporarily incarcerated (to socialize with other psychopaths), and released.

Whether you include guns or not, religion or not, belief systems or not, they are mere correlation - incubators (or catalysts) for the violent psychopath who will eventually do harm. When will people finally take a stand to say enough is enough? We need better mental health institutions, we need mandatory commitments, and we need constant intervention.

/rant
 
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
3. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 7, 2016, 11:43 BobBob
 
California election results tend to be anticlimactic - last to vote, predictable, and nobody else really cares.  
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25. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 7, 2016, 09:57 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Jun 7, 2016, 04:40:
My coworker had an accident a couple of weeks ago, she rear-ended someone. Her airbag failed to deploy in her 10 year old Honda. Luckily, she was wearing a seatbelt, and wasn't driving that fast, so she didn't get seriously injured (although Dr. made her take a week off for bed rest for her bruises and neck). Not sure if she's going to sue or not, but she probably wouldn't have missed any work at all if the airbag had deployed.

Was she at fault for rear ending the other driver? Or was that the malfunctioning airbag's fault?

 
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20. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 6, 2016, 18:01 BobBob
 
Future generations will have no fear as they expect to respawn.  
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17. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 6, 2016, 17:18 BobBob
 
Cutter wrote on Jun 6, 2016, 12:21:
You know, I really like a lot of how Norway governs. If it wasn't for how far north it is and the - complex - language barrier I'd have really considered moving there long ago.

No thanks. I need my warm winters!
 
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17. Re: Out of the Blue May 31, 2016, 14:09 BobBob
 
Yah, zoos are disgusting and repulsive. With VR and such coming out, there is no reason to put wild animals into captivity for our entertainment.

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1. Re: Out of the Blue May 31, 2016, 13:53 BobBob
 
Understood. Been doing the same lately ... was going to return something I didn't open to REI .. drove there and .. I'm like what the .. didn't bring it! So I ended up buying some items on sale. I avoid REI as much as possible because I always convince myself into buying a bunch of stuff.

It's one of my favorite stores.
 
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18. Re: Out of the Blue May 27, 2016, 22:28 BobBob
 
Mr. Tact wrote on May 27, 2016, 22:11:
BobBob wrote on May 27, 2016, 18:11:
I voted Hillary for President
Seeing as she has yet to run for President, that seems unlikely. I assume you mean you voted for her in a primary.

Oops! Yes. Thumbsup
 
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15. Re: Out of the Blue May 27, 2016, 18:11 BobBob
 
Cutter wrote on May 27, 2016, 17:31:
BobBob wrote on May 27, 2016, 13:21:
Cutter wrote on May 27, 2016, 13:07:
BobBob wrote on May 27, 2016, 12:01:
Enjoy your freedom to speak as much as possible. Act civilized but rejoice in the opportunity to be the person you wish to be. That's what their sacrifice was about. To keep us free to be ourselves.

That's my view point.

Seriously? Lol! Are you running for office, Bob?


I've traveled quite a bit. I'm sincere. I truly love my country and have an unconditional respect for those who made the ultimate sacrifice to protect our freedoms and way of life. I honor them by engaging in critical dialogue, voting, and respecting our laws and exercising my rights. It's what defines and distinguishes me as a citizen of the USA. Thumbsup

Huh, I didn't think you'd go in for that sort of jingoistic jive. I do agree that the Vets of WWII deserve our respect and thanks, but everything since has just been about hegemony and exploitation. That isn't something to honour.

That perspective can be seen throughout human history pertaining to all forms of battle, war, and conquest.

I am not claiming the USA is superior. I am loyal to my country and I love it. I believe in the US Constitution and the intentions of the Founding Fathers. It's not only about the recent US philosophers, however it spans time and geographies - to name a few: Rousseau, Camus, Sartre, Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, MLK, Plato, Weber, Durkheim, Smith, and Voltaire. The actual list of social and political philosophers I've read is quite long.

My political views tend to be moderate:

  • I'm very pro LGBT rights.

  • I believe in harsh sentences for violent criminals.

  • I believe sex offenders who use force against others of all ages should get mandatory life sentences.

  • I'm against all forms of animal testing, but I believe people have a right to hunt for food.

  • I have no opinion about gun control because I believe the underlying problem is a failed mental health system (lack of early intervention) and the early release of violent criminals.

  • I'd rather see tax money spent toward livable spaces for homeless people (without passing judgement) than to see them on the streets and committing crimes. A homeless vet, mentally ill person, handicap person, or child should be considered an embarrassment to society and perhaps some form of criminal negligence by a city.

  • I think we should get away from any dependency on foreign energy by promoting natural and renewable resources - ones that don't pollute.

  • I believe in affordable and competing health care systems but not something entirely universal and ran 100% by the government.

  • I think a person caught driving under the influence should be charged the same as a person running around firing a weapon on the street, but I don't care if people want to drink or smoke weed in private.

  • I'm a registered Independent. I voted Hillary for President but I also voted for a Republican California Assemblyman.


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