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Signed On Jul 30, 2009, 05:12
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News Comments > Out of the Blue
11. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 13, 2016, 14:26 BobBob
 
Cutter wrote on Oct 13, 2016, 12:07:
Heard a fantastic conversation yesterday on the CBC program, Spark. Professor of Cognitive Science at UCAL Irvine, Don Hoffman, discusses how our perception of reality is pretty deeply flawed. I recall reading articles about this in SciAm several years ago and it looks like the science is finally starting to bear this out.

Is Reality Just Perception?

They also discuss the role of AI in things to come and that got me thinking of that TNG episode where they have to determine if Data is sentient and property of Star Fleet or not. Well wouldn't that apply to AI? I mean, if man can create a truly sentient, intelligent being why would we think we ever have the right to control it? That would be enslavement. Yet, could we afford to allow such an unknown variable to run around completely unchecked?

I'll play devils advocate here.

The question is how do we control the AI. As opposed to being not controlled - like humans - independently willed individuals. However, we are not independently willed - a person is being highly controlled by language, upbringing, technology, culture, law, and thousands of overt and subtle, social and environmental, pressures. A person simply 'believes and identifies' that his/her thoughts and behaviors are by choice, which fundamentally isn't true.

Our minute to minute choices are more similar to driving on a roadway - signals, sharing the road, choosing routes, etc. - vs. a craft flying through space. These schematas are necessary. It's the only way an individual can efficiently function in the surrounding world, but it also means one's 'true' will and individuality is greatly limited.

I can easily demonstrate this:

When you see a car, what do you think and see? Imagine, for a moment, that you've never seen a car before nor understand how it works. How would you think and react? I'll bet you can't authentically imagine how that would be, your mind is too conditioned to comprehend and react to it.

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News Comments > Out of the Blue
15. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 12, 2016, 19:03 BobBob
 
If you're a single, self-respecting, female, you should put this map on your refrigerator.


 
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21. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 11, 2016, 18:54 BobBob
 
They should build walls around the states that he does win.

 
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8. Re: Out of the Blue Oct 11, 2016, 14:30 BobBob
 
Based on recent news, events, and debates .. who is winning Hillary or Trump?  
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10. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 26, 2016, 16:18 BobBob
 
eDave wrote on Sep 26, 2016, 15:50:
I honestly can't bring myself to watch. It won't be a "debate" and it won't matter anyhow. I suppose all Hillary has to do is goad him into saying stupid, stupid stuff. Shouldn't be that difficult. Finish him off by "debating" foreign policy. Tell him to grow up maybe.

I'll catch the highlights on the line. That were this shitfest came from anyway.

Please delete, Blue, if I have violated anything here with this post. And my apologies if I did.

Well articulated post. Nothing offensive. Thumbsup
 
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 26, 2016, 16:17 BobBob
 
You're probably right about minds already made up:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/california/#plus

I guess it's the 'swing states' that we have to watch:

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/swing-states

 
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3. Re: Out of the Blue Sep 26, 2016, 14:24 BobBob
 
Who will win tonight's presidential debate? Thoughts? Predictions?  
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26. Re: Out of the Blue Aug 12, 2016, 21:25 BobBob
 
Cutter wrote on Aug 12, 2016, 18:07:
Whenever I was in the US when I was living on the west coast I always used to go to Peets Coffee, especially in the Bay area. Anyone frequent Peets? Is it still good?

I go there every once in awhile when I'm heading to LAX for travel.

Otherwise, my new favorite is Philz! Thumbsup
 
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16. Re: No Man's Sky Released Aug 12, 2016, 21:11 BobBob
 
Too bad they tried so hard to push the hardware envelope. Could have had zero performance issues and possibly just as fun.  
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5. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 21, 2016, 14:09 BobBob
 
A person should never leave a dog in a car.  
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9. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 20, 2016, 17:44 BobBob
 
NvM

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7. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 20, 2016, 13:59 BobBob
 
Cutter wrote on Jul 20, 2016, 11:07:
Creston wrote on Jul 20, 2016, 10:25:
Man, that sucks about that skier...

Gaming isn't worth people dying over/for.

Nothing wrong with dying do what you love. Most people never get that opportunity. Most of us just die by inches.


That's true. Though I never understood the frantic desire to do everything possible if a person realizes he/she will die soon. 1) Why not do it now anyways? 2) The dying person will either never remember or he/she will be going to a better place and probably won't care.

 
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21. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 19, 2016, 14:36 BobBob
 
eRe4s3r wrote on Jul 19, 2016, 13:41:
BobBob wrote on Jul 19, 2016, 12:32:
jdreyer wrote on Jul 19, 2016, 06:25:
BobBob wrote on Jul 18, 2016, 18:38:
I see three girls in bikinis walking by three guys playing Pokémon Go, totally ignoring the girls. Well, at least they won't breed.

And if you're going to play ... get the $#!&# off the bike path!

You say that, but interest in sex is at an all time low in Japan, where people have been addicted to devices for decades. There are so few babies being born that the population is expected to fall from 120M today to 90M by 2050.

And ... ?

His point is, I assume, that they would be ignoring those "bikini babes" with or without Pokemon Go or indeed with or without smart phone in hand.

This isn't Japan. Different culture.

 
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18. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 19, 2016, 12:32 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 19, 2016, 06:25:
BobBob wrote on Jul 18, 2016, 18:38:
I see three girls in bikinis walking by three guys playing Pokémon Go, totally ignoring the girls. Well, at least they won't breed.

And if you're going to play ... get the $#!&# off the bike path!

You say that, but interest in sex is at an all time low in Japan, where people have been addicted to devices for decades. There are so few babies being born that the population is expected to fall from 120M today to 90M by 2050.

And ... ?
 
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13. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 18, 2016, 18:38 BobBob
 
I see three girls in bikinis walking by three guys playing Pokémon Go, totally ignoring the girls. Well, at least they won't breed.

And if you're going to play ... get the $#!&# off the bike path!
 
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28. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 6, 2016, 09:08 BobBob
 
Meh, why argue. Removing.

This comment was edited on Jul 6, 2016, 09:34.
 
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25. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 5, 2016, 23:23 BobBob
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 22:36:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 22:24:
The act was its own reward. Ridiculous to expect a large cash award from somebody who is homeless, and lucked into that kind of money.
Large, no. Reasonable, yes. Yeah, they guy is not loaded. On the other hand, someone did just return his entire life savings essentially. A .05% tip seems a bit stingy. The cabbie's suggestion of $500 seems to be in the neighborhood... .5% is $935, so somewhere between $500 and $935 would seemingly be appropriate, IMHO.

I mean, consider the cabbie could have just kept it...

We should pay people to not be thieves?
 
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23. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 5, 2016, 22:32 BobBob
 
Ridiculous that anyone should expect a reward for being honest. What's next, expecting a tip for helping an old lady with her groceries or some spare change for keeping an elevator door open? A pathetic society we've become.  
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19. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 5, 2016, 18:34 BobBob
 
1badmf wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 17:24:
bob i thought you were down in SD. but yeah, really nice weather yesterday. i was down in irvine, had to wear a sweater. we trespassed onto the top of a parking structure and watched all the surrounding fireworks displays.

Not SD.

PV Thumbsup
 
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11. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 5, 2016, 15:01 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 14:47:
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BobBob wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 14:36:
Pigeon wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 14:05:
MoreLuckThanSkill wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 12:57:
Cutter wrote on Jul 5, 2016, 12:36:
The 1902 invention of air conditioning has long been hailed as one of the most important inventions of the 20th century, one that has forever changed the way we live.

Yeah, I dunno about that. AC is nice but hardly necessary - for me at any rate. I'd argue that the really important inventions are the refrigerator and toilet paper. I could live without most modern trappings but not having a fridge and TP would really suck.

Depends on the climate... a lot of the world would be/and is an absolute humid hell without air conditioning. Definitely one of the most important inventions, not the most important invention of the 20th century.

Hooray, not so minor improvements in the quality of life!


I can't imagine living where I do without AC. The feels like is 109F, and the lows at night are generally like 79F with 80% humidity. This is a consistent pattern that can last from early May to late October. The only thing that can break that in the thick of summer is a hurricane, which you better hope your power is back after 2 days, cause then it really gets hot. Think of it like this Cutter, if it weren't for AC all of us southerners would be up where you are, getting in your personal space.

Hmm .. I just open the window - the AC (Pacific Ocean breeze) is always on. Thumbsup

It was 105 in LA a couple weeks ago. You just opened the window?

The LA area has micro-climates. I live nearby the ocean. When it's 105 inland, we get a marine layer and cool breeze that stops it from getting hot.

But ... it also means we get hordes of tourists.
 
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