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65. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2016, 20:54 BobBob
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 15, 2016, 20:38:
Beamer wrote on Nov 15, 2016, 14:11:
If it required a foreign language, it was a BA, not a BS - many schools offer both options for CS. And this isn't a bad thing. Being able to demonstrate language proficiency is becoming increasingly important in nearly all fields.
You'd think so -- but no. It was a BS, hence the stupidity. And I disagree that being proficient in a second language is important or necessary for most careers. And frankly, my brain just isn't wired for it. Tried in HS and college and it WOULD NOT TAKE.

Your written English is quite eloquent. Thumbsup
 
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60. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 15, 2016, 10:59 BobBob
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Nov 15, 2016, 09:30:
Oh and for the record, my personal belief is a four year degree is over valued for most career paths. For specific careers, yes it is really needed -- for say, civil engineers or medical careers. But for decades I have considered 4 year degrees as simply "proof" you can push your way through bullshit to achieve a goal. For a large majority of careers nothing you learn in school is really applicable.


There is much more to higher education than simply choosing a career path or developing job skills. There is mind expansion and enlightenment, and the ability of higher education to teach a person new facts, theories, and new methodologies on how to think. While an individual's mental growth and response will vary, the impact on society as whole is noticeable and dramatic in the way an individual interacts with others to create laws and institutions, express and tolerate diverse ways of thinking, innovate and collaborate, and most importantly, to have objective conversations that are well informed, skeptical, open-minded, and analytical.

Imagine a person lives with a tribe in a dense forest. He's never explored outside a given parameter, has always participated in the same rituals and customs - knowing only the shared beliefs of the tribe - and has never encountered civilization's technology, laws, culture, science, philosophy, mathematics, different customs and beliefs, and new ways of thinking. Perhaps not as extreme, a similar situation can be observed with a person who lives in a small rural town, without a higher education, and has not been exposed to much urban diversity.

Until we push for higher education that is all inclusive, and give everyone the opportunity (how it gets paid for is up for debate), we will never make any progress. As to jobs, if it's not out sourcing, it'll be automation or some kind of advanced technology, and if it's not technology it will be lack of consumer demand or changing trends. Either way, a higher education is the key to obtain the skills needed to transfer and expand horizons, and it gives an individual the knowledge and tools to think and innovate, and master a fundamental skill - the ability to question everything in the universe in a logical, methodical, collaborative, expansive, and skeptical manner. Higher education for everyone should be one of society's primary agendas.

/speech

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52. Re: Morning Mobilization Nov 14, 2016, 18:44 BobBob
 
Fine, I'll ask. Who here has a college degree?

*Raises Hand*
 
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48. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 14, 2016, 14:57 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 14, 2016, 14:44:
I appreciate this forum so much. In this extremely emotional time we are able to come together and be civilized with each other and try and work through what is happening.

On the one hand I agree with Bats that I don't think that things will be as bad as Trump was promising during the campaign. He's already walking partially back some of the more execrable of his promises like the wall and deporting all 11M undocs. On the other hand minorities will face more difficulties than they did under Obama for sure. That's scary.

Trump talked during the campaign of a rigged system and not accepting the results if he lost. At the time I didn't worry too much because as the loser he wouldn't be in any position to do very much. However in 4 years when he loses his bid for a second term he could actually cause a crisis by refusing to accept the results. He'll be president and have all the power of the office to oppose the outcome.

I feel like I was living in a happy - albeit imperfect - fairy tale dreamworld for the past 8 years - focused on day to day life, ambitions, goals, aspirations for the future, and caring about loved ones - but now I've awaken to a nightmare. I have this deep sense of dread in the pit of my stomach. When I go outside, my senses observe everything around me as perfectly normal, but my mind, my intuition, my soul, and my complete sense of well-being dwells in an indefinable state of fear.



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43. Re: Morning Mobilization Nov 14, 2016, 10:22 BobBob
 
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Nov 14, 2016, 09:37:
Further, we have suggested that perhaps your credulity stems in some small part from the fact that as a middle-aged straight white dude.

Interesting, I share the same demographic, yet I am horrified by the prospects.

However ...

I also have 3 college degrees and live on the West Coast.

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9. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 12, 2016, 15:20 BobBob
 
Dacote wrote on Nov 12, 2016, 14:45:
BobBob wrote on Nov 12, 2016, 14:24:
Watching protests on the news. I find the popular vote argument questionable. Are the popular vote excess #s based on states he won or she won? For instance, imagine each state has 2 small buckets (one red, one blue) and a large bucket which both small buckets pour into when they cease filling up. Once the large bucket is filled up, one color dominates and that sets the electoral vote for a state - meaning if a state turns turns red or blue. Popular vote matters because we measure the spill over of the large buckets. The big question - is the 'blue' popular vote - spill over - coming from both red and blue states or is it primarily coming from blue states? The question is important because I believe it can clarify or demystify state level cultural divides, the validity of electoral college vs popular vote, and help us understand fundamental differences in regional representations.
Not sure i understand your question, but if you google 2016 election results it has a nice interactive chart and you can look at individual states.

Is her popular vote win exclusively blue states or also red states?
 
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5. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 12, 2016, 14:24 BobBob
 
Watching protests on the news. I find the popular vote argument questionable. Are the popular vote excess #s based on states he won or she won? For instance, imagine each state has 2 small buckets (one red, one blue) and a large bucket which both small buckets pour into when they cease filling up. Once the large bucket is filled up, one color dominates and that sets the electoral vote for a state - meaning if a state turns turns red or blue. Popular vote matters because we measure the spill over of the large buckets. The big question - is the 'blue' popular vote - spill over - coming from both red and blue states or is it primarily coming from blue states? The question is important because I believe it can clarify or demystify state level cultural divides, the validity of electoral college vs popular vote, and help us understand fundamental differences in regional representations.  
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189. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 11, 2016, 18:14 BobBob
 
I wonder what the government of California will do to protect us when the new fed pulls funding and attempts to deport millions of people living in our state.  
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180. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 11, 2016, 09:47 BobBob
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Nov 11, 2016, 09:21:

Glenn Beck called, he wants his rhetoric back.

Nice attempt to discredit what I'm saying by associating my speculation with a political commentator who I never listen to.

The evidence is speaking for itself:

http://tinyurl.com/jc2fzaf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDIBvNZRiuc

http://tinyurl.com/hsg9bdt

http://tinyurl.com/jalu4mh

Sad and terrifying, this is only the beginning.

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177. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 11, 2016, 09:15 BobBob
 
When you get tired of being oppressed by the new regime ruled by Herr Trump, and his brown shirts rampaging through the streets, and public schools and daily life threatened by gangs of racists and ultra right wing reactionaries that have crawled out of hiding -- emboldened, empowered, and validated by the new angry and hateful administration - let me know when you seek sanctuary. We will welcome you in our refuge of freedom, tolerance, and diversity, known as California.

What truly scares me the #%%# out of me is that I might not be joking.

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40. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 21:53 BobBob
 
Creston wrote on Nov 10, 2016, 21:33:
A BEEEEELION!! 'Grats Blue!

No like or thumbs up feature here, so quoting Creston to share the same sentiment. Thumbsup
 
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157. Re: Morning Mobilization Nov 10, 2016, 17:39 BobBob
 
JoeCool wrote on Nov 10, 2016, 17:37:
Scottish Martial Arts wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 21:49:
DangerDog wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 21:20:
Move to Colorado, they just voted in assisted suicide.

Fortunately, as a Trump supporter, you don't need the government's permission: alcohol poisoning and opioid overdoses will see things through for you on their own. Rising death rates due to suicide and drug overdose among middle-aged whites can't increase fast enough.

This is why you lefist morons lost. You're not real americans, you don't represent real america and real american whitelashed against your pathetic world view.

You mean all those votes were cast by Native Americans?
 
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25. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 17:05 BobBob
 
Oh hell, yah!!!

I love my state!
 
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154. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 16:19 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 10, 2016, 13:59:
Verno wrote on Nov 10, 2016, 11:14:
Trump's 100 day plan, from the man himself:

If he can accomplish just the lobbying reform alone it would be an incredible achievement.

His environmental derailment efforts are of course a disaster but that's a whole other ball of wax.

There's a lot of good there, and there's a lot of scary stuff. I appreciate how he's going after sacred cows.

GOOD:
1. The lobby reform is long, long overdue. Jesus fuck is it overdue. I'll bet the SCOTUS overturns it though. "Money = free speech" case is still on the books.

2. I've been in favor of congressional term limits forever. LOL @ McConnell, who is not in favor.

3. If he can change defense spending to stop projects from having parts built in 40 states, I'd support that.

4. Rebuilding our infrastructure is sorely needed.

BAD:
1. He's expanding the war on drugs. It has already failed, let's try something new.

2. Reducing regulations simply "because there are too many" is bad. Each regulation should be changed or eliminated based on analysis. We saw what happened after Glass-Steagall was repealed.

3. The environmental changes, pro fossil fuel stance, and withdrawing from climate change agreements.

4. The wall. LOL.

WAIT AND SEE:
1. Withdrawing from NAFTA and TPP. NAFTA has pretty much been a wash, and trade btw Canada, Mexico, and the USA has increased a 3x since it's introduction. Jobs have been both lost and created as a result. The rust belt was already rusting before it was passed. I oppose the TPP, but if it turned out like NAFTA, it wouldn't have had much of an effect either way.

2. Going after countries for currency manipulation. On the one hand, long overdue. On the other hand, a trade war could really hurt us.

3. I hope that by reducing government employees, they're not planning on replacing them with private contractors.

4. Rebuilding the military. We already have the largest most powerful military in the world. I'm hoping he means to change weapons procurement methodologies so we don't end up with over-expensive, troubled weapons systems like the F-35 or Zumwalt.

5. Tax reform. Depends on how he does it, but if he wants to rebuild both the nation's infrastructure and the military, how will he pay for it?

You missed the fine print.

Everything proposed is subject to change on a whim. The Supreme Ruler reserves the right to make spontaneous decisions, and to enact revenge upon anyone who he feels insults him or disagrees with his policies.

 
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14. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 13:22 BobBob
 
Worth a try?


 
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141. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 12:30 BobBob
 
RedEye9 wrote on Nov 10, 2016, 12:22:
BobBob wrote on Nov 10, 2016, 12:07:
I'm quite scared for our future. Jingoism, sexism, science ignorance, and bigotry will not only be prevalent in this upcoming administration, but it will validate such behavior nationwide by its fanatical constituents.

Executive leadership often sets a culture tone in law, education. and attitude.

Many news outlets are trying to down play it to keep the peace and to prevent widespread panic, but history has shown that often the situation is much worse than is either predicted or what people are willing to imagine.

I truly hope our California government can protect us.

i think we're only mildly fucked. If you thought Congress stonewalled President Obama, just wait and see what happens with President Fuckstick Von Clownstein.

PS
Congress refusal to approve the SCOTUS nomination was a national disgrace.

Very different scenario. This time, he will be one of their own, Let's not underestimate the ability of an extremist to manipulate sycophants against each in order to obtain an uncontested outcome. See history. ...
 
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139. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 12:07 BobBob
 
I'm quite scared for our future. Jingoism, sexism, science ignorance, and bigotry will not only be prevalent in this upcoming administration, but it will validate such behavior nationwide by its fanatical constituents.

Executive leadership often sets a culture tone in law, education. and attitude.

Many news outlets are trying to down play it to keep the peace and to prevent widespread panic, but history has shown that often the situation is much worse than is either predicted or what people are willing to imagine.

I truly hope our California government can protect us.

 
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137. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 10:57 BobBob
 
History repeats: California Today: With Trump’s Rise, a Return to the ‘Rebel State

Finding yourself disenchanted with your state's 'red' election status? There is hope for you. Cool
 
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131. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 10, 2016, 09:29 BobBob
 
Take a very deep breath and hold it for 4 years.  
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48. Re: Out of the Blue Nov 9, 2016, 15:04 BobBob
 
jdreyer wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 14:39:
BobBob wrote on Nov 9, 2016, 14:32:
I hope he does one thing, that's sort of expected of his campaign, and that's fight crime. It's surging and spreading in waves and it's getting to the point where places that used to feel safe are full of gangs, graffiti, shootings, and thugs. I'm not asking for a totalitarian regime or some kind of police state, but I'm tired of losing the freedom to walk the streets. I actually thought if Hillary won she'd push for better law enforcement as well, as Bill did.

Freedom to be safe and walk the streets should be considered a 'right'.
National crime stats are at decades-low rates, three times lower than just 20 years ago. If there's a surge in your area, it's local, and you can probably bug your local rep to do something about it.


Prop 47 and early release ... that's affecting all of California.

La Times

SF Chronicle

Fact Check

Also, do I have to mention Boston, San Bernardino, Orlando, and others?


 
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