killer_roach wrote on Mar 28, 2020, 15:53:
More than just Microsoft - I just looked at my Steam updates list, some of them are being scheduled to run on April 11th. Slightly excessive?

Beamer wrote on Mar 28, 2020, 13:44:
*snip to not quote Cutter*

RedEye9 wrote on Mar 23, 2020, 19:30:

eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 23, 2020, 19:27:
Whatever I just canceled my Valve Index VR order... already feeling less salty about being pushed to 9+ weeks after such a long wait time and with no info either. If Valve doesn't want 1000€ I am sure someone else will take it and give me what I WANT. Something to do while being stuck for months in an apartment for example.... blegh

Understandable, things could be a whole helluva lot worse. See the comments in today’s ootb.

Drayth wrote on Mar 23, 2020, 16:39:
Why are you blaming Valve for this blowing up the VR market? Everyone else is out of stock too.

What makes more sense? They hold the game back till there's more VR headsets in stock, or they release the game and people get their headsets as soon as is possible?

Also, did you keep your back fill order from months ago, because they've had restocks since. They just tend to sell back out in a day.

Jesus... I once played Half-Life 2 and my dog barked all night. I'm boycotting Valve!

Frijoles wrote on Mar 19, 2020, 17:47:

eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 19, 2020, 16:59:
I have about the same numbers and was instantly sucked into Avorion.. you can build entire station production networks, with inner sector trade between stations by cargo shuttles and outer sector transport with looping transport orders for transport vessels, which also means you can build your own turret factories, which is obviously absolutely insanely good given that you need hundreds R Mining lasers and weapon of your choice for combat since same weapon means SAME targeting behavior which is obviously insanely good....

Does it take hundreds of hours (or just a long time) to get to that point? One of the reasons I haven't played X4 much is because it just felt like such a grind for every single thing I wanted to buy. I spent hours trying to find crystals (think they were) and mining them for money just so I could upgrade my ship.

DrSquick wrote on Mar 19, 2020, 15:16:

Cutter wrote on Mar 19, 2020, 12:05:

Slashman wrote on Mar 19, 2020, 11:45:

eRe4s3r wrote on Mar 19, 2020, 10:22:
I wonder how Egosoft feels.. now that Avorion is out..and is just vastly superior in every way aside graphics....

Just fine. I'm sure Avorion is a great game but modular ship building was never what X was about.

If you look at the changelogs for 3.0 you can see they are huge? This will be a massive update of the base game and (just my opinion) make X4 one of the most solid space games on the market. It did take awhile to get there though.

Would that be a good time to finally pull the trigger on this? I've been watching and waiting for it to finally be ready enough to buy.

I put 500+ hours into X3:TC, then another few hundred into a modded version of X3:TC. I bought X:R on release day and of course regretted it. I waited a year before I bought X4, and honestly could not get into it. I have about 8 hours into it. I got to the point where your personal HQ is built, I have a tier2 ship with four guns, which is pretty much invincible now to anyone I have run into. At that point my interest waned.

With the highway you can cruise around the whole galaxy in 60 seconds, so exploring a section does not feel like any sort of accomplishment. The economy does not seem to NEED you like it did in X3. In X3 it felt like the economy was in shambles without you. Satellites couldn't be made because the electronics factory had no material because the mines didn't have energy cells. So you could fill a giant freighter with tons of energy cells that you bought at rock-bottom price and sell for max price at the mine. Then after some time you could get another freighter to do the next step. And after a dozen hours or more you have single-handed fixed the economy of that sector.

Avorion is fantastic! I haven't played in about six months, so I'm not sure if they have added logistics chains. But the ship building, mining, and combat is super fun!