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News Comments > City of Heroes to End; Paragon Studios Closed
39. Re: City of Heroes to End; Paragon Studios Closed Aug 31, 2012, 23:57 StingingVelvet
 
Kalthorn wrote on Aug 31, 2012, 18:19:
Not to be pedantic, but online games do not simply vanish from existence once they are shut down.

The publishers/owners could release the server executables to the public when they shut down, but they choose not to. That is why the game ends, not because of some magical property of being an online game.

We all know that won't happen, but even if it did, just because a new player can see all the same content 5 years after I did doesn't mean they are playing the same game. Patches, content updates, and, most importantly, the community at that point in time are all integral to the "true" game.

You can log into Everquest today and do some quests around Freeport but it won't be anything like it was for me and thousands of others in the weeks/years after launch. Call it zeitgeist or whatever you want, but the true experience of a game, of a work of art, is often wrapped up in the community and culture at that time. Can you play Super Mario Bros. 3 today? Yes. Would that experience be anything like it was when it came out? No. That experience has arguably vanished from existence.

That is sad, true, but like someone else already mentioned, makes the memories fonder. All I'm saying is that this happens regardless of the online/offline properties of a game.

I can load up SMB3 on an emulator and get the feel back to some extent, I can show my kids the games daddy played when he was little. With a dead MMO none of that is possible outside of random youtube videos (which are limited themselves).

If you don't think of games as art on the same level as movies and music then okay, let them die. For those of us who do though it's considered a cultural crime that a game can die and no longer be played in any form.
 
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News Comments > City of Heroes to End; Paragon Studios Closed
14. Re: City of Heroes to End; Paragon Studios Closed Aug 31, 2012, 16:45 StingingVelvet
 
NKD wrote on Aug 31, 2012, 16:08:
StingingVelvet wrote on Aug 31, 2012, 16:03:
And now it just will cease to exist. That is what I hate about online games, no one will be able to experience this game again.

There are a lot of experiences people have that will never come again, and that makes the memories even more fond, IMHO.

If you think of games as art though, which I do, it is truly tragic they can cease to exist. With an offline game there can always be emulation or at worst getting an old machine working. With online games though they just die.
 
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News Comments > Quoteworthy - Maxis on PC Gaming
32. Re: Quoteworthy - Maxis on PC Gaming Aug 31, 2012, 16:05 StingingVelvet
 
MattyC wrote on Aug 31, 2012, 11:45:
Game preservation worries for B.net titles is more than a little unfair. You can still login to Diablo 1 last I tried. That is from 1996. Blizzard could always change, but as of now they have a long record of backing their online services.

Blizzard won't exist forever.
 
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News Comments > City of Heroes to End; Paragon Studios Closed
8. Re: City of Heroes to End; Paragon Studios Closed Aug 31, 2012, 16:03 StingingVelvet
 
And now it just will cease to exist. That is what I hate about online games, no one will be able to experience this game again.  
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News Comments > Borderlands 2 Season Pass
40. Re: Borderlands 2 Season Pass Aug 31, 2012, 04:41 StingingVelvet
 
Jerykk wrote on Aug 31, 2012, 03:44:
the cartoony visual style

Everything else aside I really don't get why some people hate visuals with a stylized look like this. I thought Dragon Age: Origins looked fucking boring, brown and grey Tolkien blowjob of the highest order. DA2, say whatever else you want about it, looked fresh, vibrant and beautiful.

Just opinions of course, but it seems like PC gamers in general want brown fantasy or nothing.
 
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News Comments > On Sale
4. Re: On Sale Aug 30, 2012, 22:52 StingingVelvet
 
Darkness 2 was very good I thought. Not worth $50, but for less than $20 it's a fun 6-8 hours of good shooting with cool powers.  
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News Comments > Quoteworthy - Maxis on PC Gaming
28. Re: Quoteworthy - Maxis on PC Gaming Aug 30, 2012, 19:39 StingingVelvet
 
Slashman wrote on Aug 30, 2012, 08:49:
Why is that unlikely? Skyrim hasn't left the top 20 Steam charts since it launched last November. Console sales for a game peter out very quickly. While they may not have outsold both platforms combined(and I am not sure they haven't), they probably outsold each console by a large margin.

Oblivion on Xbox outsold the PC version "many times over" according to a developer quote. In addition, Todd Howard when speaking of mods said "90% of our audience is on the consoles."

I would guess Skyrim sold on PC surprisingly well, hence all the post-release support, but saying it sold more than either console, especially both combined, is quite unrealistic.
 
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News Comments > Quoteworthy - Maxis on PC Gaming
27. Re: Quoteworthy - Maxis on PC Gaming Aug 30, 2012, 19:36 StingingVelvet
 
Jerykk wrote on Aug 30, 2012, 05:06:
Unfortunately, D3's 6+ million sales don't really suggest that consumers are against always-online DRM. Rather, it suggests that they don't care about DRM at all provided that your game has sufficient hype and marketing.

I would say people hate DRM when it doesn't work, but don't care when it does. If Diablo 3 launched smoothly I would agree no one cared, but since it had a rough first week I would guess some people who normally wouldn't care might be a little wary of future always online requirements, at least for a little while.

Probably not though.

Honestly those of us worried about DRM and game preservation are so in the minority I am surprised publishers ever comment on the matter at all.
 
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News Comments > Borderlands 2 Season Pass
33. Re: Borderlands 2 Season Pass Aug 30, 2012, 19:30 StingingVelvet
 
Some people know they want all the DLC no matter what, either because they trust the developer or love the franchise. I would have paid for a season pass for Skyrim or Fallout: New Vegas, easily. Those people save some cash using this method, which is cool.

Not sure? Don't buy. Simple.
 
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News Comments > The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Hearthfire Announced
5. Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Hearthfire Announced Aug 28, 2012, 13:39 StingingVelvet
 
Fion wrote on Aug 28, 2012, 13:32:
Yep. I don't know about paying $20 for essentially the same thing as that mod (though by the sounds of this, it's more complex). I haven't even gotten Dawnguard yet because of all the poor reviews.

More like average reviews than bad (metacritic says 73). It's just more Skyrim, no more and no less. It's $20 worth of content easily when compared to other DLC, but it's just not really special or different.
 
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News Comments > The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Hearthfire Announced
4. Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Hearthfire Announced Aug 28, 2012, 13:37 StingingVelvet
 
Verno wrote on Aug 28, 2012, 13:36:
Looks like it's only about $5, 400 MSP is 5ish USD. I don't know if I care enough to pay for such a specialized thing but oh well, it'll give me something to grab on a steam sale sometime.

Same thought here, maybe for 99 cents. Reminds me of the "bad DLC" from Oblivion.
 
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News Comments > Guild Wars 2 Launches
24. Re: Guild Wars 2 Launches Aug 28, 2012, 11:29 StingingVelvet
 
Stupidest question in the world I know, but hype is a bitch. Is there any reason someone who hates MMOs would like this game?  
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
88. Re: Steam Top 10 Aug 27, 2012, 22:19 StingingVelvet
 
Prez wrote on Aug 27, 2012, 19:29:
Well to his credit he has openly admitted he is a contrarian and will argue different points of the same issue depending on the website.

Teehee.
 
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
84. Re: Steam Top 10 Aug 27, 2012, 15:13 StingingVelvet
 
Verno wrote on Aug 27, 2012, 12:48:
KB/M is the standard input peripherals on a PC, as in the most widely used. I use gamepads sometimes, there is nothing wrong with them but you don't boot up the computer and control it with a gamepad like a console. Asking developers to do the barest minimum of effort to ensure KB/M use works is not unreasonable. I wouldn't port a PC game to the consoles that requires keyboard input and tell them to buy a 360 chatpad.

Dark Souls is a bad port for many reasons, but I still disagree here. The difference there is the 360 actually does have a standard control method, so making them use a keyboard or whatever is completely opposed to the platform. The PC has no such standard, no such limitations.

I repeat, "back in the day" a gamepad was more "standard" on a PC than a mouse was. Games were released on PC that required a joystick or other peripherals. The PC has NO standard control scheme for games, none. A mouse does not come with laptops, a gaming quality video card does not come with 90% of PCs sold. Hell, tons of people build their PC from parts and it has no standard anything.

It's an open, adaptable, anything goes platform. That is its strength and weakness. I for one would welcome games with "controller required" setups if it meant more PC games to choose from and enjoy. In my opinion games like Dark Sounds are already in that group anyway, they just pretend otherwise to try and please people who are like "gamepads are for kids yo."
 
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
79. Re: Steam Top 10 Aug 27, 2012, 12:26 StingingVelvet
 
Verno wrote on Aug 27, 2012, 09:07:
While not necessarily ideal, the important thing is that the option is there. PCs don't exactly ship with gamepads so expecting everyone to have one is kinda silly.

What exactly does this standard uniform PC ship with? Because I have never heard of such a thing.
 
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News Comments > Steam Top 10
54. Re: Steam Top 10 Aug 27, 2012, 03:56 StingingVelvet
 
I am laughing at the idea of anything being "native" to the PC. A laptop does not come with a mouse and barely any PC comes with a real video card anymore. Do we complain when a game requires one of those?

As someone else said brilliantly the beauty of the PC is adaptability. Use the best control method for the job and shut the fuck up for Christ's sake.

The funny thing is no one complained about gamepads back in the day, or games clearly designed for a flightstick. It was common sense to have peripherals for certain games back then. It's only since the Xbox stole the shooter and RPG genres from the PC and people were like OMG WAR that this stupid idea of "gamepads are for console heathens" came around. Is pure bullshit posturing and fake superiority.

I would never think to play an FPS with a pad and feel bad for those who do. I would also never think to play Dark Souls, Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, Grid and whatever the fuck else with a keyboard, and feel bad for those who do.
 
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News Comments > Diablo III 1.04 New Paragon Endgame Detailed
16. Re: Diablo III 1.04 New Paragon Endgame Detailed Aug 20, 2012, 16:59 StingingVelvet
 
Creston wrote on Aug 20, 2012, 16:03:
So the new endgame is... grind 100 more levels?

Creston

By going always online and shit they seemed to make people think this is an MMO, but it's not is it? I don't know why people expected an "endgame" in the first place.
 
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News Comments > On Cut New Vegas Content
12. Re: On Cut New Vegas Content Aug 19, 2012, 23:28 StingingVelvet
 
I downloaded the one that adds some missing NPCs back into the game, but overall this is some superfluous and generally buggy stuff. New Vegas was good as released, honestly.  
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News Comments > Ubisoft Uplay PC Launches
52. Re: Ubisoft Uplay PC Launches Aug 17, 2012, 17:16 StingingVelvet
 
necrosis wrote on Aug 17, 2012, 10:48:
EA strong arming you and only letting you get digital version from their service and this thing from Ubi (insane DRM aside) is not even on par with Stem.

On par for your needs or not, they're still challengers, and they're not strong-arming you any more than Valve is with Portal 2 and whatever else.
 
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News Comments > Ubisoft Uplay PC Launches
23. Re: Ubisoft Uplay PC Launches Aug 16, 2012, 18:12 StingingVelvet
 
Creston wrote on Aug 16, 2012, 18:08:
Driver San Francisco for a buck? Hmm. Does it have that retarded DRM of theirs?

I'd be tempted to get AC2 and brotherhood for the PC, but same issue with the DRM horseshit... Though I believe in brotherhood it's been taken out?

Last I checked the always online games like Driver and AC2 are now just online to boot, offline afterward. They might have toned it down further in the interim though, I haven't played them in a while.

Brotherhood was a simple one-time activation.
 
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