RailWizard wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 22:35:
Wooo! Are we having fun yet? Cuz DAMN not one single person here has presented an argument worthy of debate. Is there none up to the challenge? Surely you can do better....
TangledThorns wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:43:commonperson wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:34:Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:19:
What would be super awesome is to have a cadre of elite gay gamers go up against some of these people spouting hate. I'd love to watch the gay gamers own them but that's just an aside.
Thats fine but its not hate. You must think I hate people in a wheelchair too, right? I have compassion and sympathy for those that are unable to have children as easily as a heterosexual can.
Given the wonders of science anyone can have children now adays. So that's a moot point. Childbearing and the ability to raise a child has nothing to do with the argument here. And if anything this world could do with a few fewer babies being born, we're overpopulated with millions of unwanted children who are orphans. They need homes before we need to bring new babies in to the equation. As for wheelchairs, I have no idea what you think. I just know what you post and I don't dare assume anything.
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:19:
You're not making a strong argument at all. Gay clans/guilds are advertised because it lets gay people know where they can go to play with others that aren't going to bash them for their sexual preference. Anyone who's played online for more than a few hours knows that the Internet is rife with homophobia, and you'll hear more anti-gay slurs than anything else usually. I don't see any problem with them looking for a group to play with where they don't have to deal with that.
TangledThorns wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:21:commonperson wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:15:TangledThorns wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 09:40:commonperson wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 08:58:
Scientific proof please. I'm not obtuse, I'm just educated. There is in fact NO concencus on why homosexuals are born homosexuals. There are a combination of factors considered by medical professionals (which I am guessing you are not) ranging from the geneitic (nature) to an environmental (nurture) source. Common concencus is it's a bit from column a and a bit from column b but the reality is there no evidence of genetic code that creates homosexuality. For gene therapy to work you need to have a gene to isolate and target. Furher the only claim of the gene being found was disproven and the claimant (who was funded by Christian groups) disappeared and the APA (Amarican Psychological Association) has gone on record saying that it does not exist. So, unless you have inside knowledge of the human genome which was fully mapped in 2003 you're full of rubbish.
You're educated? I refuse to a respond to someone that can't even spell check. Seriously, you misspelled further as Furher.
Ah so due to a spelling error you will not justify your stance. I see how it works, so class if you can't use a spell check you don't get to know the secret information that TangledThorns knows about the human genome. He will hold the rest of you up from your gene therapy for your mystery ailment due to a spelling error. You want to know why I don't bother with a spell check? Because this is a forum, I don't really care. If I honestly cared about what people said on video game forums I'd have hung my self YEARS ago. So, yeah, don't provide that non-existent proof. Good for you, enjoy that pulpit that you stand behind and preach hate. At least the one good thing I've seen from this is there is only one other person supporting you and the rest actually seem to be calling you on your balogna. A rare instance of reason in the video game community.
Oh and by the way, how did you know I wasn't addressing you directly and forget my umlat? ;-)
This comment was edited on Jan 29, 2012, 11:36.
TangledThorns wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:16:commonperson wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 11:09:
I DARE you to approach a homosexual and tell them they are handicapped. I actually KNOW homosexuals, sommething you either do not or you obviously hide your feelings regarding as frankly as a heterosexual if you came up and spoke like this to a homosexual friend of mine I'd be sorely tempted to belt you. Any how, if anyone knows what it is to live with a handicap it must be you, how is it being an ignorant fool who can barely understand the concept of tying one's own shoes?
Are you that dense? I won't tell a person that has any handicap that they are, that would be rude. Wow, you know homosexuals? That must make you an expert on all things minority. If it was up to you there would be no prenatal care. Just let babies be born however ill they may become, we'll accept them as is. Am I right??
TangledThorns wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 09:40:commonperson wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 08:58:
To use gene therapy you need a gay gene this is the same kind of master race crap white supremacists use
You're very obtuse. Gay people are born that way for a scientific reason.
TangledThorns wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 10:56:CommunistHamster wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 09:40:
Gene therapy? Seriously? Just accept that people are different, and that just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's objectively bad. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Oh wow you are dumb and obviously take good health for granted. Get it through your skull that some people would rather not live life handicapped.
RailWizard wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 05:39:Draugr wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 05:14:RailWizard wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 04:13:
<-Hey look! It's an anti-gay smilely! lol...
How is a family anti-gay? Families and homosexuals can and already do coexist. Gay people have families, and belong to families.
I can see you are quite dense, or maybe my joke was just over your head, so I'll explain.
As you noted, that is the smiley for 'family' and you can see it's a male, a female, and a child. There are no 'gay family' smileys, so it was a sarcastic way of saying that this is something that gays would be upset about because they are clearly not being represented. Get it now?
TangledThorns wrote on Jan 29, 2012, 08:39:
I can't believe liberals with all their 'understanding' of science don't see homosexuality as a reproductive birth defect.
I know if a parent has a choice of protecting their child from birth defects like blindness, development issues and even homosexuality they'd use gene therapy to stop it when it becomes widely available.
RailWizard wrote on Jan 28, 2012, 23:18:Cutter wrote on Jan 28, 2012, 23:12:
Well they do harp on about how they are 'born that way', and if that is so, then it is indeed a defect. Logic wins this argument every time. You mad?
Actually it's a naturally occuring phenomenon in multiple animal speicies running from higher primates down to avian groups. Invariably in the animal kingdom the relationship is no different from that of a "heterosexual" relationship with the same level of devotion and fidelity as seen in the cross section of the heterosexual group of the same size. In all liklihood it's a combination of factors most likely due to population relief in the species allowing an outlet for sexual releif and companionship when population density exceeds certain levels. In higher lifeforms you have more complex social interactions so it goes beyond a simple matter of biology in to a combination of nature, nurture, and environment.
Homosexuality simply is what the person or animal is. It's not a "deviation" it's nature, and for the Christians if God is perfect and god created man then he created homosexuality as well because it's been around since before the Christian god even existed (or the Jewish god for that matter.) In essence "RailWizard" you appear to be hiding an agenda of hate and bigotry behind a thinly veiled illusion of reasonableness. Stop pretending you are using logic, science or even reason. For what ever reason you hate homosexuals and are attacking them. Your first ammendment right in the US and according to the UN your human right but guess what's also protected under human rights laws and the US constitution, a human's right to their own sexuality. So just be sure to realise you may be allowed to spout hate (to a certain degree) but we can also call you on your shinanigans.
RailWizard wrote on Jan 28, 2012, 22:41:
When is the last time you saw a "Straight people only." group in game? I'm sure they exist, but there are not advertised that way, are they...
Gas Bandit wrote on Jan 3, 2012, 23:36:CommunistHamster wrote on Jan 3, 2012, 22:56:
Phew, two licensed MMOs aborted. Close save for gamers everywhere.
Yeah! Just like that Star Wars Old Republic abomination! Isn't it just a shame that horrible idea came to fruition! I can't seem to find a positive review for it anywhere!
Cutter wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 00:05:
Hardly, just the obvious and trite stuff that idiots like you, Drezden, et al. all like. Then again, you morons don't seem to think there's anything wrong when you gripe about stuff but you sure do love to point out when other people do it. gg hypocrites.
And seeing as this game has been in development for about 5 years and given its size and scope 300 million is more than fair and that was a number given 2 years ago. And we're not even talking the maketing budget here which will easily be 100 million, so yeah somewhere in the 300-500 million ballpark is a pretty fair guess.
Creston wrote on Nov 29, 2011, 19:18:Cutter wrote on Nov 29, 2011, 18:36:
Please do the math for me. Explain how 350k subs are going to recoup 500 million and counting? I'll be really surprised if this isn't F2P inside of 2 years, probably less.
Every time you post about the game, the amount of money sunk into it goes up... 500 million... Really?
Most game review sites place the money anywhere between 100-300 million, and the 300 million is solely and alone because one guy blogged that he worked on it and it had cost "LIKE 300 MILLION DOLLARS, MAN!" And all they're doing is guessing, because no official figures have ever been released.
So now it's gone to 500 million? Come on. Even EA's marketing department can't spend money THAT fast.