ForgedReality wrote on Mar 20, 2016, 14:38:
Why are people still buying GTA 5? I mean, it's a great game and all, but you can't play online at all without being annoyed to shit from all the fucking hackers EVERYWHERE. It's so bad. I wish they would just do the lowrider update for single player.

Trevellian wrote on Mar 4, 2016, 02:48:

Slick wrote on Mar 4, 2016, 01:24:
total themepark, so boring.

sandbox implies you can explore, there's no exploration. it's do all the quests for your current level in your current town, then goto the next one, etc. etc. etc. fucking snoozefest.

it really is too bad, as the combat is done better than any MMO i've ever seen. very satisfying.

I want to be untethered, and just explore, and have all the quest shit just happen automatically. Same trap that so many MMOs fall under, where everyone just mashes spacebar to skip through all quest dialogue, because it's utterly boring. why even bother being tethered to this dumb archaic quest system if it's total placeholder content.

it's like they just can't escape it. Firefall tried, and then they threw that whole system out and went back to quests and grind. at first it was an open world sandbox, you could jsut wander, explore, find stuff to do, dynamic quests. Then turned into people just running from one end of the map to the other handing in quests, going to kill 10 mobs, wash rinse repeat. Oh and andtantly everyone stopped playing together, as there was no incentive unless you were all roughly the same level.

GARBAGE.

fuck MMOs. they really all are absolute shite.

N..no.... No it's not a themepark MMO
In fact it's the exact opposite. Quests are only useful for Contribution points, which are only useful if you plan on buying houses and nodes for crafting and trade, they literally give almost no EXP. Therefor doing those quests in town are completely optional to you, the only quests mandatory for progressing your class are the ones from the Black Spirit, who you can literally pull out wherever you are standing and not even pay attention to the story if you wish to.

You get most EXP from going out and grinding like back in the day in EQ and DAOC. Thats why there are grinding groups. Nothing in the game is level restricted except for how difficult the mobs may get but no one is stopping you from going and fighting them, I consistantly level off fighting groups of mobs 3+ levels higher. Gear isn't even level restricted, any gear can become end game gear if you upgrade it with the gear quests at 50.

This game is as open ended as you can just about make it. It's as close to EVE Online in Fantasy as you're going to get as far as trading and having a balanced market. It's everything ArcheAge could have been if Trion didn't shit all over it.

If you have that opinion of this game then it's because you followed the quests at the towns out of habit from all other MMO's training you to play that way. Not because the game is designed that way. I literally have a buddy who didn't pay attention to a single town and he just grinded his way doing the Black Spirit quests and fighting mobs to 50.