360 is the only system posting stable sales growth in both software catalog and hardware right now when every other company is having trouble with the economy.
Not too long ago there was a headline that the entire Xbox 360 division was down over 60%. That's not stable growth. They are still down. PS3 has been in the black with all things considered for a year.
If we were talking about the PS3 here, sales figures would matter to you. Second, the sales figures determine the effective install base that publishers can sell content to so it very much matters despite whatever you may think.
Raw sales figures with out context is only something the most naive investor might care about. It's that context and how it matters is what I have been harping on post after post... Raw data can be made to say just about anything. Raw data can be corrupted. Hell a company with money to burn can actually buy it's own inventory and resell it if they thought that it would improve the chances of securing a commanding position in a market, while writing it off as a loss...
are you going to pretend that half of the 32 million Xbox owners are all diehards who bought the system multiple times?
I think it's ore around 30 million and for example I will use it. Let's say 46% of the people who bought an Xbox never had a problem (using Joystiq's sample data). Then lets say that the other 54% had to at least replace their Xbox 1 time. But half of them had to do it a 2nd time, and half of them had to do it a 3rd time, so on and so on. You would reach a figure well beyond cutting total sales in half. My opinion not only holds merit, it's more accurate and in line with the actual graph recently released regarding bad Xboxs. Those who had problems kept pulling bad ones from the "pool" of bad refurbs, this continued until they bought their way out on another xbox, and even some of those were bad too. I know, it's happened to me 3 times. You have a concrete theoretical explanation how it came to pass, and even a graph from a third party showing things like this did in fact most likely occur. You can pretend it isn't the case all you want. If I were selling a game on Xbox, I would seriously cut my expectations for average sales potential in half after filtering out all other factors.
Actually there are very few large singular data files in a typical game and that is what developers move to the outer regions of a DVD.
Thank you for agreeing with me, the problem is that the tiny DVD disk is crammed full with little ability to optimize unless you ship with more than 1 disk, or cut lots of content out (or your game was tiny already).
Most of these will be large textures or levels. This keeps their read speeds relatively stable and at optimal rates.
Not when they are compressed because of disk space issues DVD capacity limitations force on a developer... What ring that is on the disc also matters more on DVD than Blu-ray.. Read speeds are not smooth and constant as you portray, they fluctuate wildly with DVD. Some optimizations can be made, but the best ones require space that many games don't allow for while trying to cram on 1 DVD.
If Sony would include a 4x BD drive we wouldn't even be having this discussion but they keep using old 2x technology which is first gen and slow.
While I do agree it would have been awesome to have a 4x BD drive, even by the most basic graphs out there, the 2X drive is in the range of a 12x dvd. By having a very consistent read, faster seek time, and less need for optimization in order to remain at that constant read speed, are some of the things that make it perform as good if not better than a 12x DVD...
Small reads are unimportant for both Blu-Ray and DVD, seek times are more than adequate there.
I won't agree or disagree with you here, but again Blu-ray seek times are faster from the things I have read. Feel free to disagree.
Where is this comparison?
Side by side, loading between the same zones while playing both the Xbox and PS3. The whole family agreed the PS3 loaded zones faster than the Xbox. It didn't even need a stopwatch test, the difference was so dramatic. I can't believe we are even discussing this...
No, you don't get to do this. Last week you claimed Microsoft was going to do this with their DD store and kept going on and on about how wrong it was. Now it's simply no big deal because Sony's doing it? No, that's exactly the kind of inconsistency that people criticize you for.
Do you even remember what you are arguing about? I will refresh your memory. I made a claim that in my opinion Xbox will be less patient and force people to digital only much sooner than PS3 in order to compete. I said I felt Xbox drm was draconian, while on PSN you can use the software on 5 different consoles. I said I think Sony is less likely to give up Blu-ray as a format after spending so much in order to make it the standard. God of War 1, and God of War 2 are being released with touch up on Blu-ray (physical media). The meaning of what I said is it's shitty they won't allow people who already own the physical PS2 copies to play the game on all PS3s and are making them repurchase more physical media to play it. It has nothing to do with Xbox or PS3 going digital only... Not sure if you are really that lost here, or just making stuff up now just annoy me...
Sony is the king of DRM. They are responsible for the major driving DRM on the PC that you blew off.
I don't credit them for killing PC gaming, I think Microsoft deserves that crown. Limited installs and broken games is the kind of DRM I am talking about. Forcing people to use Game for Windows and Steam. That's the bullshit that killed PC gaming for me and many others. You can't pin that on Sony.
Sony PSN games are DRM'd.
They let you use all game software on 5 different consoles..., and you can deactivate and reactivate entire consoles (PSP and HD changes do not change the counts either). If these were the MAIN games on PS3, I wouldn't buy in to it at all. On Xbox, you get 1 single machine to use your DRM'd software on. Last I checked you could only change to a new machine 1 time a year unless you get RROD or convince a csr to grant you a change. Since Sony will most likely staying on physical media longer, getting the major games on Blu-ray will prevent people from being put in to a position of download only at some point from Xbox via Games on Demand. If you want to pretend PSN DRM is ridiculous when in fact it's pretty generous, that's your choice. It doesn't really affect any of the physical media as you can play every game on Blu-ray for PS3 without ever going online.
Link to this imaginary discussion.
It's in your own posting history, find it yourself...
Lame backpedal that really means you don't have five. This is exactly what people are sick of you doing.
Last time this happened you were betting I would not be able to come up with 35 PS3 exclusive titles, I found 55+...
If you want to play this game, make it worth my while otherwise step off. I don't care what you think or if you believe me at this point, the only thing I ever hear when a service drops support of something it's about Xbox live, and I still think that.
@Verno - Practice what you preach and we will see where it goes...This comment was edited on Sep 2, 2009, 16:16.
PS3 resurgance by GOW3 - Check! Mass Effect for PS3 - Check! Diablo 3 for consoles? I say "For sure"!