Gametrailers has, in the past, shown less than optimized PS3 graphics and they have been called on it. There are PS3 settings that greatly improve the picture quality, some of which are not enabled by default since not all TV sets support them. Whether or not that is the case here I cannot say, but I will say that my PS3 version of GTA4 looks MUCH better than what is being shown in this video so I have my doubts. That being said, almost all review sites have given the PS3 version a slight edge.

"Drunk driving is not a game and it is not a joke"

So the only things acceptable in video games are those things that are acceptable in real life? What video game doesn't contain some form of anti-social behavior?

Geez, maybe I should buy www.gta5.com real quick.

And I am a big enough fan that I will buy GTA4 for PS3 as well

Out of curiosity, how many PS3 owners here are getting GTA IV?

I haven't heard that statement from anyone.

I was going by the review Repeat Offender linked to. I found this in the Gamespy review which sorta confirms what IGN said -

"Like the previous games in the series, it suffers from some texture pop-in and draw distance issues... For those who have to decide between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions, we should mention that these flaws are slightly less noticeable in the PS3 game."

I'm more bothered by excessive texture/object pop-in which I understand is much more apparent in the 360 version.

I grew up having to shuffle floppies and learning how to configure my extended memory just to be able to play games.
Not much about the PC in general has ever been simple

You say that like it's a good thing.

I'm going to go back in time and murder the person or people who started misspelling those words.

I would of volunteered to do it, but not now sense your going too.

I jsut don't understand this fixation on gfx for the GTA games

Well, I'm certainly not fixated on the graphics for any game. If I had to make a "deserted island" list of games, Robotron 2084 would be in my top 5.

Are you serious!?

Yeah, I'm serious.

Compared to what!? name 1 "current gen" title that has everything this is going to have

Are you serious? You honestly believe this to be the pinnacle of graphics on the current consoles? COD4 and Uncharted are two titles off the top of my head that easily best what I've seen so far from GTA4.

However, not sure why you're getting so riled up as I stated earlier that graphics didn't really matter so long as the gameplay was good.


This comment was edited on Apr 10, 15:44.

I just watched a video to get a better sense of what bothers me and I'd say it's mostly in the character animations. They have a marionette quality in the way they move that is very distracting to me. Also, the poly count seems to be on the low side.


This comment was edited on Apr 10, 14:36.

Are you speaking of GTA4?

Yeah. From the videos I've seen it just strikes me as being very ordinary and looking last gen. Of course, that isn't necessarily a bad thing so long as the gameplay is there, but for a current-gen title I guess I've come to expect more.

we probably all have swank new big screen LCD TV's we want to see this on

Graphically speaking, I don't think this game looks all that impressive.

Another DX10 and Vista rocks in Crysis suckass fanboi review!

This quote from the article seems to run counter to your claim:

"When playing the game it was near impossible to tell the difference between DX9 and DX10, and we even knew the exact nuances we were trying to realize. Taking the “Pepsi Challenge” in Crysis comparing IQ (image quality) between DX9 and DX10 would likely end in a draw. Only upon very close examination of screenshots could we truly identify the differences."


This comment was edited on Apr 9, 13:35.

Even if they design the game for a gamepad and just slap on M+KB support, online players with gamepads would complain.

And indeed they do which is why Epic decided to enable gamepad only servers in UT3 for those players who don't want to compete against M+KB players. This works fine for me and I think the choice should be left to the gamer as to which controller to use.

M+KB is not accessible.

How so? I use a standard wireless USB M+KB for the PS3. It sits under my coffee table ready to be pulled out on a moments notice. Just as accessible as a gamepad so long as you have the table space.

Adding M+KB support takes time and resources.

Relative to the entire project you're talking minimal effort here. I'm certain the bulk of the development effort is spent on things like graphics, physics, AI, etc. Mapping input to a different controller type should be a no-brainer for the average developer.

Console players obviously have no problems with using gamepads in shooters so why should developers bother?

But they do have problems. Some of them anyway. Many console players won't touch a FPS on a console because of the gamepad so they split their gaming time between the PC and the console. The demand for M+KB support is definitely there and if implemented, would probably go a long ways towards making console games less... well, consolish.

Today's consoles have the muscle to deliver a gaming experience close, if not quite equal, to that of the PC. Really, the only piece left holding consoles back in my opinion is universal support for mouse and keyboard.

This comment was edited on Apr 3, 21:27.

So this does support it? I hadn't heard since it was released. You play UT3 on the PS3 with mouse and keyboard?

Yup. Support must be built into the game in order to take advantage but the PS3 fully supports mouse and keyboard which is how I play UT3 on the PS3.

unless they made special PS3 only mice and keyboards

There is no need as the PS3 supports standard USB peripherals as well as bluetooth. However, as I stated it is up to the game developers to decide if they want to implement using keyboard and mouse.

but never a keyboard and mouse. (so far)

UT3 on the PS3.

This comment was edited on Apr 3, 14:16.

That sandwich defines mystery meat.

Krusty: Look, about the rib-wich, There aren't gonna be any more. The animal we made them from is now extinct.
Homer: The pig?
Otto: The cow?
Krusty: You're way off... think smaller... think more legs!

This comment was edited on Mar 27, 12:23.

So, any guesses as to what this game is all about? The trailer has a definite WTF vibe to it and doesn't seem to provide any clues as to what the actual gameplay might be like. Still, looks really cool and different.

Being cool means eating crap here in the US

It does? What's considered cool must have changed radically since I was kid.