I really really really hope id nor Apogee try to stop this. Commander Keen was one of the first PC games I really loved.

Was reading that NSA/Windows 7 article for a few seconds and then got a strange feeling, confirmed when I looked at the URL. Yep... InfoWorld.

InfoWorld is possibly the worst website for technology information. Just about every article is designed purely for generating hits with sensationalism on non-issues. Some sites simply are not worth linking to.

Doesn't scare me. I know what I'm doing =P

Safe to say people that run in admin 100% of the time are retards.

Tell me, would you run your 'nix system in root? If you said yes, you deserve what you get.

Not ignoring the problem. I use a test environment for software before I install; I research software before installation. I simply do not need AV.

As I said before, this is not for everyone. It works for me.

Haven't had a need for AV since the days of DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.0. I don't advocate not running AV to just anyone, but it works for me. I am simply not willing to deal with the performance hit or potential vulnerabilities that come from running mainstream AV software.

By the way... article was written by a Sophos employee. They make anti-virus software. Pure FUD.

I'm a firm believer that the best defense against worms is a hardware firewall. Firewall software is better than nothing but much easier to become disabled by smart-enough malware. A properly configured router with UPnP turned off provides a great degree of protection against that form of threat.

The problem with turning UPnP off is that one has to configure their router manually if port forwarding is required by an application. Fine for power users but for most people too confusing.

It's amazing how many people still connect their computer to their cable or DSL modem with nothing in between but an Ethernet cord.

Second to a hardware firewall: install OS updates. There are still alot of wanabee techies that think not updating is safer, just in case MS screws up an update. That thinking is out-of-date (no pun intended). While update screw-ups were common in the days of Windows 95 and 98 it is very rare today. I'd rather take my chances with a bad update (easily fixed with system restore) than with a worm.

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Wow, talk about a misleading article. All that Windows 7 piece proves is that you can run code that does not require admin privileges without triggering UAC.

Exactly how it is supposed to work.

Virus infections are 100% the responsibility of the user, by definition. You need to purposely execute code to trigger an infection. You need to elevate privilege with UAC on to have them do system-level damage.

And before anyone dares to correct me, I said virus, not worm. Viruses require user interaction to infect, worms do not.

Trust me, it wasn't

Wow, and over 2 years after the Windows release. Must rock to be a Mac gamer =P

I'm another one of those 2 million that tried it for a couple hours, and after multiple disconnects and a ridiculous number of bugs I gave up and uninstalled it.

I am very interested to see how many people are actively playing this failure.

I only have patched versions of the 2 so I can't verify this, but if that's the case so be it, and I stand corrected.

It still stands, though, that not all PC games have/had disc checks. The music industry, a dinosaur of industry, has largely abandoned DRM. Hopefully the software industry will eventually realize how futile DRM is. It doesn't work, and any system can be hacked or cracked. All DRM does is annoy legitimate customers. Pirates have no such worries.

Way to show how silly you are... every freaking PC game ever made has had a disc check, other than online activated games (which are worse).

Way to show how little you know. Plenty of PC games never had disc checks. Quake and Quake II spring to mind immediately. Same with Unreal, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadows of Chernobyl and System Shock 2. None of those games had online activation.

Despite what you might think, disc checks have not been around forever. There was an era where disc checks did not exist. I miss it.

You have been duped into believing this is the norm and that, as a consumer, you should just accept it. That's fine if you want to. I however, do not.

Of course, one should never take EA as a representative example - any more than Nazi Germany was representative of Europe in the 1930s.

Godwin's Law reveals itself in only 5 posts. That was fast

EA now typically spends two or three times as much on marketing and advertising as it does on developing a game.

Perfect explanation to the generally shitty quality of their games.

Not sure if anyone noticed but at the start of the gametrailers.com video, it shows Stormwind Harbor... (along with all the rest of the water in the video) with fully reflecting water

Yep they are finally updating the water effects. I hope boats finally have a wake and bob like they should, but I'm not holding my breath.

Let's say you're building a house. You hire a contractor to paint it. He hires 5 more guys to help him finish the house on time. When the painting is done he lays those 5 guys off because he has no more houses to paint.
Should I blame you for it?

Shitty analogy. You're making the assumption the work is done. Programming is not like painting a house (if that was the case any fucktard could code).

Any gamer that plays multiplayer knows that patches are the nature of the beast, and laying off those coders will almost guarantee it to be buggy as hell once people start hitting servers. Patches will be needed. Exploits will be found. If no one is there to make the fixes the community will suffer and die.

Horrorscope, before you jump off the deep end this is shit I've been telling people for years. It works.

I haven't had a need to use full-time anti-virus on my systems since Windows 3.0. It pays to be preventative when it comes to security, the most important of these is not running your system in admin 100% of the time. That stops just about everything in it's tracks.

The second is not being a tard and downloading shit and installing it without some type of research or investigation. I use virtual machines to test drive software, especially anything I think is risky.

That top 5 article is the first good one I've seen in a long time. I'm not advocating for your average user to not use anti-virus, but I simply don't have a use for it anymore.

This game is sounding more and more like Fallout. Mutants, wasteland, radiation, a (potentially oppressive) authority in charge. Hmmm...